Why doesn’t the book of Tobit meet the criteria for being included in the Bible?

[NathanH83]

I couldn't find anything about "purges sin".




Tobit
[4:7 Give alms of thy substance; and when thou givest alms, let not thine eye be envious, neither turn thy face from any poor, and the face of God shall not be turned away from thee.

4:8 If thou hast abundance give alms accordingly: if thou have but a little, be not afraid to give according to that little:

4:9 For thou layest up a good treasure for thyself against the day of necessity.

4:10 Because that alms do deliver from death, and suffereth not to come into darkness.

4:11 For alms is a good gift unto all that give it in the sight of the most High.

12:9

 

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12:9

Tobit 12:9 is contrary to Torah and likely a reason it is not considered apart of the jewish TaNaKh.

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Tobit
[ 12:9 For alms doth deliver from death, and shall purge away all sin. Those that exercise alms and righteousness shall be filled with life:]

Hebrews 9
[ After Moshe had proclaimed every command of the Torah to all the people, he took the blood of the calves with some water and used scarlet wool and hyssop to sprinkle both the scroll itself and all the people; 20 and he said, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has ordained for you. 21 Likewise, he sprinkled with the blood both the Tent and all the things used in its ceremonies. 22 In fact, according to the Torah, almost everything is purified with blood; indeed, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.]

 

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Tobit 12:9 is contrary to Torah and likely a reason it is not considered apart of the jewish TaNaKh.

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Tobit
[ 12:9 For alms doth deliver from death, and shall purge away all sin. Those that exercise alms and righteousness shall be filled with life:]

Hebrews 9
[ After Moshe had proclaimed every command of the Torah to all the people, he took the blood of the calves with some water and used scarlet wool and hyssop to sprinkle both the scroll itself and all the people; 20 and he said, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has ordained for you. 21 Likewise, he sprinkled with the blood both the Tent and all the things used in its ceremonies. 22 In fact, according to the Torah, almost everything is purified with blood; indeed, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.]

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Excerpt:
[ Perhaps the best-known class of offerings is the burnt offering. It was the oldest and commonest sacrifice, and represented submission to G-d's will. The Hebrew word for burnt offering is olah, from the root Ayin-Lamed-Heh, meaning ascension. It is the same root as the word aliyah, which is used to describe moving to Israel or ascending to the podium to say a blessing over the Torah. An olah is completely burnt on the outer altar; no part of it is eaten by anyone. Because the offering represents complete submission to G-d's will, the entire offering is given to G-d (i.e., it cannot be used after it is burnt). It expresses a desire to commune with G-d, and expiates sins incidentally in the process (because how can you commune with G-d if you are tainted with sins?). An olah could be made from cattle, sheep, goats, or even birds, depending on the offerer's means.]

 

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Tobit 12:9 is contrary to Torah and likely a reason it is not considered apart of the jewish TaNaKh.

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Tobit
[ 12:9 For alms doth deliver from death, and shall purge away all sin. Those that exercise alms and righteousness shall be filled with life:]

Hebrews 9
[ After Moshe had proclaimed every command of the Torah to all the people, he took the blood of the calves with some water and used scarlet wool and hyssop to sprinkle both the scroll itself and all the people; 20 and he said, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has ordained for you. 21 Likewise, he sprinkled with the blood both the Tent and all the things used in its ceremonies. 22 In fact, according to the Torah, almost everything is purified with blood; indeed, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.]

Excerpt: concerning purging sin
Chatat: Sin Offering

[ A sin offering is an offering to atone for and purge a sin. It is an expression of sorrow for the error and a desire to be reconciled with G-d. The Hebrew term for this type of offering is chatat, from the word chayt, meaning "missing the mark." A chatat could only be offered for unintentional sins committed through carelessness, not for intentional, malicious sins. The size of the offering varied according to the nature of the sin and the financial means of the sinner. Some chatatot are individual and some are communal. Communal offerings represent the interdependence of the community, and the fact that we are all responsible for each others' sins. A few special chatatot could not be eaten, but for the most part, for the average person's personal sin, the chatat was eaten by the kohanim.]


Only warmblooded creatures for a sin offering

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Vayiqra (And He called...) (Leviticus)}3 All things came to be through him,
and without him nothing made had being.

 

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12:9

As I said before.
Cold blooded creatures have no part in atonement.
While the leviathan/fish is clean to eat.
It is not an appropriate sacrifice.
Nor does the leviathan have any properties relative to charity.

No where in Torah are fish mentioned to have value in approaching The Lord.
Quite the opposite is mentioned in the account of yonah.

With exegesis a son or daughter will find many contradictions in the account of tobit/tabor

And with hope i surmise an end to confusion.

Blessings Always

 

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As I said before.
Cold blooded creatures have no part in atonement.
While the leviathan/fish is clean to eat.
It is not an appropriate sacrifice.
Nor does the leviathan have any properties relative to charity.

No where in Torah are fish mentioned to have value in approaching The Lord.
Quite the opposite is mentioned in the account of yonah.

With exegesis a son or daughter will find many contradictions in the account of tobit/tabor

And with hope i surmise an end to confusion.

Blessings Always

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3671027/jewish/What-Is-the-Jewish-Approach-to-the-Apocrypha.htm

 

[NathanH83]

As I said before.
Cold blooded creatures have no part in atonement.
While the leviathan/fish is clean to eat.
It is not an appropriate sacrifice.
Nor does the leviathan have any properties relative to charity.

No where in Torah are fish mentioned to have value in approaching The Lord.
Quite the opposite is mentioned in the account of yonah.

With exegesis a son or daughter will find many contradictions in the account of tobit/tabor

And with hope i surmise an end to confusion.

Blessings Always

What are you talking about?

My original question was about what is wrong with the Book of Tobit that would disqualify it from being included in the Bible. I never asked about the Leviathan. I’m totally confused what you’re talking about.

 

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What are you talking about?

My original question was about what is wrong with the Book of Tobit that would disqualify it from being included in the Bible. I never asked about the Leviathan. I’m totally confused what you’re talking about.

There are 5 warm-blooded sacrifices to cover a soul.

A fish/leviathan being the 6th finger(sacrifice) is luciferian .

Do you understand the numerical composistion?

 

[Andrew]

There are 5 warm-blooded sacrifices to cover a soul.

A fish/leviathan being the 6th finger(sacrifice) is luciferian .

Do you understand the numerical composistion?

You have a very creative imagination, tell me more, whats the 7th sacrifice or finger or whatever?

 

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You have a very creative imagination, tell me more, whats the 7th sacrifice or finger or whatever?

I never mentioned a 7th sacrifice.
Are you confused?

 

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Shalo'yom Rishon

 

[NathanH83]

There are 5 warm-blooded sacrifices to cover a soul.

A fish/leviathan being the 6th finger(sacrifice) is luciferian .

Do you understand the numerical composistion?

Huh? Tobit never mentions Leviathan. Can we get back to my question about Tobit?

 

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Huh? Tobit never mentions Leviathan. Can we get back to my question about Tobit?

What question?

 

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Huh? Tobit never mentions Leviathan. Can we get back to my question about Tobit?

A devouring fish is leviathan hence the number of organs molded by an author

 

[NathanH83]

A devouring fish is leviathan hence the number of organs molded by an author

I never mentioned the Leviathan. What about the issues in regards to Tobit? What’s so bad about this book that it’s disqualified from being scripture?

 

[Andrew]

I never mentioned the Leviathan. What about the issues in regards to Tobit? What’s so bad about this book that it’s disqualified from being scripture?

Where do we begin?

1. The name "Raphael" comes from a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cartoon character which means it couldn't have been written "before Christ" (BC)

2. No where in the NT does it say angels may disguise themselves as people (although they would probably find us a bit entertaining )

3. God raining down frogs over egypt and turning some lady into a piller of salt sounds awesome! but come on... a demon despising fried fish entrails and running off .. really? booooo.

4. This book was written by Catholics between 350 BC to 80 BC... back when there were NO Catholics!.. that makes NO SENSE!!

5. Eating a fish with 6 fingers is not kosher (someone else already mentioned this one but for the record I thought of it first)

6. As true Christians we don't have to do anything at all, almsgiving is WORKS!

7. Just wanted to end at seven because it's a lucky number

 

[atpollard]

I’m confused as to why you think Leviticus condones occult practices.

Leviticus is nothing if not specific.
Does Leviticus COMMAND the burning of fish guts? (No.)
Does Leviticus COMMAND the burning of other organs? (Yes.)
Does Leviticus COMMAND who should burn the organs, which organs, where they should be burnt and when they are to be burnt? (Yes.)
Did Tobias follow the commands of Leviticus when he burnt fish guts (what, when, where and by whom)? (No.)

Does God typically command people to violate His laws? (No.)
If a spirit command things contrary to what God has already commanded, is that spirit from God? (No.)

THAT is why Tobias is not accepted His God-breathed Holy Scripture.

 

[NathanH83]

Leviticus is nothing if not specific.
Does Leviticus COMMAND the burning of fish guts? (No.)
Does Leviticus COMMAND the burning of other organs? (Yes.)
Does Leviticus COMMAND who should burn the organs, which organs, where they should be burnt and when they are to be burnt? (Yes.)
Did Tobias follow the commands of Leviticus when he burnt fish guts (what, when, where and by whom)? (No.)

Does God typically command people to violate His laws? (No.)
If a spirit command things contrary to what God has already commanded, is that spirit from God? (No.)

THAT is why Tobias is not accepted His God-breathed Holy Scripture.

Can you show me where the Bible says that it’s sinful to burn fish guts? Or can you show that burning fish guts is witchcraft? Do you know any witches specifically who said that they burn fish guts?

Where’s the connection? How do you prove Tobias was sinning? How do you prove Tobias was practicing witchcraft?

 

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Excellent summary pollard