"This calls for wisdom"

[Andrew]

...lest the ignorant mislead you with their wild eyed nonsensical theories due to their lack of understanding...

On facebook in a Christian discussion group the topic of the "Mark of the Beast" sprung up and I was truly amazed at how paranoid and fanatical the majority of Christians in the discussion group came off as.

I had some of my own baseless conspiracy theories concerning 666 before in the past but I was surprised that not one of them had anything close to reassembling the truth whatsoever.

I went ahead and chimed in with my take on the matter, after all Revelation is my favorite book and I love diving into my historical studies of early Christianity.

Here is my short copy pasta of what I posted and mind you I wrote it rather quickly so it's a little messy but oh well, enjoy my crazy theory on the Mark of the Beast!


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The heads of the beast are made up of kings (men) and the "man" of perdition is (in Johns day) the sitting emperor, all of the emperors make up the beast, simple.
Nero was ONE of the heads and John used him as an example of identifying these men using numbers, in Nero's case it was 666 or 616 and at the time his coins baring that mark/image were in wide circulation.
John could not just say "Emperors" or "Nero", so he exposes them through mediums (coins, pottery, statues) that bare both the name of the beast and the name of a man (roman empire/sitting emperor).

Now the permanency of the mark represent the wicked majority (secularist) who follow the beast in admiration and praise, as a Roman citizen it was illegal to be a Christian, having money was necessary indeed, Christians were not of that secular world but belonged to the Kingdom of God, hence why they are marked with the mark of God instead of the mark of the beast..
For me "Hand" also means "works" (whether good or bad), "Forehead" = 'attention', so in my opinion Christians focus on God thus receive the mark of God while unbelievers turn away from God and to the beast thus receive it's mark

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Bible verses about Wisdom

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What Does the Bible Say About Wisdom?

Bible verses about Wisdom

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You're most welcome.
Revelation is a delicate subject of discussion.

 

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...lest the ignorant mislead you with their wild eyed nonsensical theories due to their lack of understanding...

On facebook in a Christian discussion group the topic of the "Mark of the Beast" sprung up and I was truly amazed at how paranoid and fanatical the majority of Christians in the discussion group came off as.

I had some of my own baseless conspiracy theories concerning 666 before in the past but I was surprised that not one of them had anything close to reassembling the truth whatsoever.

I went ahead and chimed in with my take on the matter, after all Revelation is my favorite book and I love diving into my historical studies of early Christianity.

Here is my short copy pasta of what I posted and mind you I wrote it rather quickly so it's a little messy but oh well, enjoy my crazy theory on the Mark of the Beast!


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The heads of the beast are made up of kings (men) and the "man" of perdition is (in Johns day) the sitting emperor, all of the emperors make up the beast, simple.
Nero was ONE of the heads and John used him as an example of identifying these men using numbers, in Nero's case it was 666 or 616 and at the time his coins baring that mark/image were in wide circulation.
John could not just say "Emperors" or "Nero", so he exposes them through mediums (coins, pottery, statues) that bare both the name of the beast and the name of a man (roman empire/sitting emperor).

Now the permanency of the mark represent the wicked majority (secularist) who follow the beast in admiration and praise, as a Roman citizen it was illegal to be a Christian, having money was necessary indeed, Christians were not of that secular world but belonged to the Kingdom of God, hence why they are marked with the mark of God instead of the mark of the beast..
For me "Hand" also means "works" (whether good or bad), "Forehead" = 'attention', so in my opinion Christians focus on God thus receive the mark of God while unbelievers turn away from God and to the beast thus receive it's mark

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Starting with the plain meaning in the exegesis process of PaRDeS.
The numerical composition is 7 heads.
As in 7 abominations.
Proverbs 6
Proverbs 26:25

 

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...lest the ignorant mislead you with their wild eyed nonsensical theories due to their lack of understanding...

On facebook in a Christian discussion group the topic of the "Mark of the Beast" sprung up and I was truly amazed at how paranoid and fanatical the majority of Christians in the discussion group came off as.

I had some of my own baseless conspiracy theories concerning 666 before in the past but I was surprised that not one of them had anything close to reassembling the truth whatsoever.

I went ahead and chimed in with my take on the matter, after all Revelation is my favorite book and I love diving into my historical studies of early Christianity.

Here is my short copy pasta of what I posted and mind you I wrote it rather quickly so it's a little messy but oh well, enjoy my crazy theory on the Mark of the Beast!


--------

The heads of the beast are made up of kings (men) and the "man" of perdition is (in Johns day) the sitting emperor, all of the emperors make up the beast, simple.
Nero was ONE of the heads and John used him as an example of identifying these men using numbers, in Nero's case it was 666 or 616 and at the time his coins baring that mark/image were in wide circulation.
John could not just say "Emperors" or "Nero", so he exposes them through mediums (coins, pottery, statues) that bare both the name of the beast and the name of a man (roman empire/sitting emperor).

Now the permanency of the mark represent the wicked majority (secularist) who follow the beast in admiration and praise, as a Roman citizen it was illegal to be a Christian, having money was necessary indeed, Christians were not of that secular world but belonged to the Kingdom of God, hence why they are marked with the mark of God instead of the mark of the beast..
For me "Hand" also means "works" (whether good or bad), "Forehead" = 'attention', so in my opinion Christians focus on God thus receive the mark of God while unbelievers turn away from God and to the beast thus receive it's mark

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As for the 4 spoken of by the ruach(spirit) to daniel.
Consider the wisdom given in devarim/deuteronomy 5:9.

Blessings Always

 

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וְאָ֣הַבְתָּ֔ אֵ֖ת יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ וְשָׁמַרְתָּ֣ מִשְׁמַרְתּ֗וֹ וְחֻקֹּתָ֧יו וּמִשְׁפָּטָ֛יו וּמִצְוֺתָ֖יו כָּל־הַיָּמִֽים׃

Love, therefore, the LORD your God, and always keep His charge, His laws, His rules, and His commandments.

וִֽידַעְתֶּם֮ הַיּוֹם֒ כִּ֣י ׀ לֹ֣א אֶת־בְּנֵיכֶ֗ם אֲשֶׁ֤ר לֹֽא־יָדְעוּ֙ וַאֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹא־רָא֔וּ אֶת־מוּסַ֖ר יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֵיכֶ֑ם אֶת־גָּדְל֕וֹ אֶת־יָדוֹ֙ הַחֲזָקָ֔ה וּזְרֹע֖וֹ הַנְּטוּיָֽה׃

Take thought this day that it was not your children, who neither experienced nor witnessed the lesson of the LORD your God— His majesty, His mighty hand, His outstretched arm;

וְאֶת־אֹֽתֹתָיו֙ וְאֶֽת־מַעֲשָׂ֔יו אֲשֶׁ֥ר עָשָׂ֖ה בְּת֣וֹךְ מִצְרָ֑יִם לְפַרְעֹ֥ה מֶֽלֶךְ־מִצְרַ֖יִם וּלְכָל־אַרְצֽוֹ׃

the signs and the deeds that He performed in Egypt against Pharaoh king of Egypt and all his land;

וַאֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂה֩ לְחֵ֨יל מִצְרַ֜יִם לְסוּסָ֣יו וּלְרִכְבּ֗וֹ אֲשֶׁ֨ר הֵצִ֜יף אֶת־מֵ֤י יַם־סוּף֙ עַל־פְּנֵיהֶ֔ם בְּרָדְפָ֖ם אַחֲרֵיכֶ֑ם וַיְאַבְּדֵ֣ם יְהוָ֔ה עַ֖ד הַיּ֥וֹם הַזֶּֽה׃

what He did to Egypt’s army, its horses and chariots; how the LORD rolled back upon them the waters of the Sea of Reeds when they were pursuing you, thus destroying them once and for all;

וַאֲשֶׁ֥ר עָשָׂ֛ה לָכֶ֖ם בַּמִּדְבָּ֑ר עַד־בֹּאֲכֶ֖ם עַד־הַמָּק֥וֹם הַזֶּֽה׃

what He did for you in the wilderness before you arrived in this place;

וַאֲשֶׁ֨ר עָשָׂ֜ה לְדָתָ֣ן וְלַאֲבִירָ֗ם בְּנֵ֣י אֱלִיאָב֮ בֶּן־רְאוּבֵן֒ אֲשֶׁ֨ר פָּצְתָ֤ה הָאָ֙רֶץ֙ אֶת־פִּ֔יהָ וַתִּבְלָעֵ֥ם וְאֶת־בָּתֵּיהֶ֖ם וְאֶת־אָהֳלֵיהֶ֑ם וְאֵ֤ת כָּל־הַיְקוּם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר בְּרַגְלֵיהֶ֔ם בְּקֶ֖רֶב כָּל־יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃

and what He did to Dathan and Abiram, sons of Eliab son of Reuben, when the earth opened her mouth and swallowed them, along with their households, their tents, and every living thing in their train, from amidst all Israel—

כִּ֤י עֵֽינֵיכֶם֙ הָֽרֹאֹ֔ת אֶת־כָּל־מַעֲשֵׂ֥ה יְהוָ֖ה הַגָּדֹ֑ל אֲשֶׁ֖ר עָשָֽׂה׃

but that it was you who saw with your own eyes all the marvelous deeds that the LORD performed.

וּשְׁמַרְתֶּם֙ אֶת־כָּל־הַמִּצְוָ֔ה אֲשֶׁ֛ר אָנֹכִ֥י מְצַוְּךָ֖ הַיּ֑וֹם לְמַ֣עַן תֶּחֶזְק֗וּ וּבָאתֶם֙ וִֽירִשְׁתֶּ֣ם אֶת־הָאָ֔רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַתֶּ֛ם עֹבְרִ֥ים שָׁ֖מָּה לְרִשְׁתָּֽהּ׃

Keep, therefore, all the Instruction that I enjoin upon you today, so that you may have the strength to enter and take possession of the land that you are about to cross into and possess,

וּלְמַ֨עַן תַּאֲרִ֤יכוּ יָמִים֙ עַל־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר֩ נִשְׁבַּ֨ע יְהוָ֧ה לַאֲבֹתֵיכֶ֛ם לָתֵ֥ת לָהֶ֖ם וּלְזַרְעָ֑ם אֶ֛רֶץ זָבַ֥ת חָלָ֖ב וּדְבָֽשׁ׃ (ס)

and that you may long endure upon the soil that the LORD swore to your fathers to assign to them and to their heirs, a land flowing with milk and honey.

כִּ֣י הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֨ר אַתָּ֤ה בָא־שָׁ֙מָּה֙ לְרִשְׁתָּ֔הּ לֹ֣א כְאֶ֤רֶץ מִצְרַ֙יִם֙ הִ֔וא אֲשֶׁ֥ר יְצָאתֶ֖ם מִשָּׁ֑ם אֲשֶׁ֤ר תִּזְרַע֙ אֶֽת־זַרְעֲךָ֔ וְהִשְׁקִ֥יתָ בְרַגְלְךָ֖ כְּגַ֥ן הַיָּרָֽק׃

For the land that you are about to enter and possess is not like the land of Egypt from which you have come. There the grain you sowed had to be watered by your own labors, like a vegetable garden;

וְהָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֨ר אַתֶּ֜ם עֹבְרִ֥ים שָׁ֙מָּה֙ לְרִשְׁתָּ֔הּ אֶ֥רֶץ הָרִ֖ים וּבְקָעֹ֑ת לִמְטַ֥ר הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם תִּשְׁתֶּה־מָּֽיִם׃

but the land you are about to cross into and possess, a land of hills and valleys, soaks up its water from the rains of heaven.

אֶ֕רֶץ אֲשֶׁר־יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶ֖יךָ דֹּרֵ֣שׁ אֹתָ֑הּ תָּמִ֗יד עֵינֵ֨י יְהוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ בָּ֔הּ מֵֽרֵשִׁית֙ הַשָּׁנָ֔ה וְעַ֖ד אַחֲרִ֥ית שָׁנָֽה׃ (ס)

It is a land which the LORD your God looks after, on which the LORD your God always keeps His eye, from year’s beginning to year’s end.

וְהָיָ֗ה אִם־שָׁמֹ֤עַ תִּשְׁמְעוּ֙ אֶל־מִצְוֺתַ֔י אֲשֶׁ֧ר אָנֹכִ֛י מְצַוֶּ֥ה אֶתְכֶ֖ם הַיּ֑וֹם לְאַהֲבָ֞ה אֶת־יְהוָ֤ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶם֙ וּלְעָבְד֔וֹ בְּכָל־לְבַבְכֶ֖ם וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁכֶֽם׃

If, then, you obey the commandments that I enjoin upon you this day, loving the LORD your God and serving Him with all your heart and soul,

וְנָתַתִּ֧י מְטַֽר־אַרְצְכֶ֛ם בְּעִתּ֖וֹ יוֹרֶ֣ה וּמַלְק֑וֹשׁ וְאָסַפְתָּ֣ דְגָנֶ֔ךָ וְתִֽירֹשְׁךָ֖ וְיִצְהָרֶֽךָ׃

I will grant the rain for your land in season, the early rain and the late. You shall gather in your new grain and wine and oil—

וְנָתַתִּ֛י עֵ֥שֶׂב בְּשָׂדְךָ֖ לִבְהֶמְתֶּ֑ךָ וְאָכַלְתָּ֖ וְשָׂבָֽעְתָּ׃

I will also provide grass in the fields for your cattle—and thus you shall eat your fill.

הִשָּֽׁמְר֣וּ לָכֶ֔ם פֶּ֥ן יִפְתֶּ֖ה לְבַבְכֶ֑ם וְסַרְתֶּ֗ם וַעֲבַדְתֶּם֙ אֱלֹהִ֣ים אֲחֵרִ֔ים וְהִשְׁתַּחֲוִיתֶ֖ם לָהֶֽם׃

Take care not to be lured away to serve other gods and bow to them.

וְחָרָ֨ה אַף־יְהוָ֜ה בָּכֶ֗ם וְעָצַ֤ר אֶת־הַשָּׁמַ֙יִם֙ וְלֹֽא־יִהְיֶ֣ה מָטָ֔ר וְהָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה לֹ֥א תִתֵּ֖ן אֶת־יְבוּלָ֑הּ וַאֲבַדְתֶּ֣ם מְהֵרָ֗ה מֵעַל֙ הָאָ֣רֶץ הַטֹּבָ֔ה אֲשֶׁ֥ר יְהוָ֖ה נֹתֵ֥ן לָכֶֽם׃

For the LORD’s anger will flare up against you, and He will shut up the skies so that there will be no rain and the ground will not yield its produce; and you will soon perish from the good land that the LORD is assigning to you.

וְשַׂמְתֶּם֙ אֶת־דְּבָרַ֣י אֵ֔לֶּה עַל־לְבַבְכֶ֖ם וְעַֽל־נַפְשְׁכֶ֑ם וּקְשַׁרְתֶּ֨ם אֹתָ֤ם לְאוֹת֙ עַל־יֶדְכֶ֔ם וְהָי֥וּ לְטוֹטָפֹ֖ת בֵּ֥ין עֵינֵיכֶֽם׃

Therefore impress these My words upon your very heart: bind them as a sign on your hand and let them serve as a symbol on your forehead,

 

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Holy writ is the foundation for a son or daughter to show themselves approved.

Blessings Always

 

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As for the 4 spoken of by the ruach(spirit) to daniel.
Consider the wisdom given in devarim/deuteronomy 5:9.

Blessings Always

לֹא־תִשְׁתַּחֲוֶ֥֣ה לָהֶ֖ם֮ וְלֹ֣א תָעָבְדֵ֑ם֒ כִּ֣י אָנֹכִ֞י יְהוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ אֵ֣ל קַנָּ֔א פֹּ֠קֵד עֲוֺ֨ן אָב֧וֹת עַל־בָּנִ֛ים וְעַל־שִׁלֵּשִׁ֥ים וְעַל־רִבֵּעִ֖ים לְשֹׂנְאָֽ֑י׃

You shall not bow down to them or serve them. For I the LORD your God am an impassioned God, visiting the guilt of the parents upon the children, upon the third and upon the fourth generations of those who reject Me,

 

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Has anyone reading here ever considered the humble ram with 2 horns comparable to the 2 greatest commands?
Daniel 8

 

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Have you ever considered the ram and its horns to be comparible to avraham and lot and their lineage?

 

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Ears, Eyes, Hands, and Feet.

[ "Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance, ]

Blessings Always

 

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Question for all readers:

Have you ever considered the 7 spirits comparible to the menorah?

Isaiah 11:2 - The Root of Jesse

The Spirit of the LORD will rest on Him--the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and strength, the Spirit of knowledge and fear of the LORD.

biblehub.com

Ephesians 1:18
[ the God of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, the glorious Father, to give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you will have full knowledge of him. 18 I pray that he will give light to the eyes of your hearts, so that you will understand the hope to which he has called you, what rich glories there are in the inheritance he has promised his people, ]

Blessed be The Holy One

 

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Fellowship within a conversation in oil holds many bonds of Truth to be shared as an inheritance known as the undivided birds called a dove of the poor.
Man and Woman created in an image have Yeshua as their head.

Blessings Always

 

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Bible verses about Wisdom

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Philippians 4:8

What Does the Bible Say About Staying Focus?

Bible verses about Staying Focus

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Philippians 4:8

What Does the Bible Say About Staying Focus?

Bible verses about Staying Focus

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This thread is about Revelation and the Mark of the beast, I have no idea how your last several post relate to the topic

 

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This thread is about Revelation and the Mark of the beast, I have no idea how your last several post relate to the topic

The mark of the beast is in opposition to The Torah sealed on ones forehead, hand, and heart.

Blessings Always

 

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This thread is about Revelation and the Mark of the beast, I have no idea how your last several post relate to the topic

The mark of the beast is contrary to.
Devarim(deuteronomy)
6
ח וּקְשַׁרְתָּם לְאוֹת, עַל-יָדֶךָ; וְהָיוּ לְטֹטָפֹת, בֵּין עֵינֶיךָ.
8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes.ט וּכְתַבְתָּם עַל-מְזֻזוֹת בֵּיתֶךָ, וּבִשְׁעָרֶיךָ. {ס}
9 And thou shalt write them upon the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates.