PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

[Doug]

Peter and Paul did not preach the same gospel messages. Below are the differences between the gospels and Apostleship's of Peter and Paul.

Peter's Apostleship: His Apostleship was commanded by Jesus Christ along with the other eleven disciples before Paul. Peter was primarily the Apostle to Israel (Galatians 2:8). Peter's Apostleship was diminishing after Paul was converted.

Paul's Apostleship: Paul was persecuting the church of God before being converted. After his conversion Paul was given revelations from the Lord Jesus Christ; Paul did not learn from any man including the twelve Apostles (Galatians 1:12). Paul was primarily the Apostle to Gentiles (Romans 11:13 2 Timothy 1:11).

Peter's Justification: Peter and the other eleven Apostles taught justification unto eternal life by believing on the name of Jesus; by believing Jesus is Christ, the Son of God (Acts 10:43 Matthew 16:16 Acts 4:12 Acts 2:36 John 20:31).

Peter preached that Israel under the old covenant was redeemed and cleansed by the crucifixion and shed blood of Jesus (Matthew 26:28 Hebrews 9:15 1 Peter 1:2 1 Peter 1:18-19 1 Peter 2:24). Peter preached forgiveness of sin at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 3:19).

Paul's Justification: Paul taught justification unto eternal life by the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18 Galatians 6:14 Colossians 1:20). Justification by faith that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for complete salvation unto eternal life (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Colossians 2:10). Paul taught forgiveness of all sin now by the blood of Jesus (Ephesians 1:7).

Peter's gospel: Peter preached remission of sins in the name of Jesus (Acts 10:43). Peter taught the gospel of the kingdom (Luke 9:2 Luke 9:6 2 Peter 1:11). Israel would inherit the promise of the Davidic kingdom on earth (Luke 1:32 Genesis 13:15). Israel would rule and reign with Jesus for a thousand year period (Revelation 20:6). Israel would be a light for salvation unto the Gentile nations that would enter the kingdom (Isaiah 60:3).

Paul's gospel: Paul taught the gospel of the uncircumcision (Galatians 2:7). Paul taught salvation to all freely by faith in Christ apart from the covenants of Israel, and apart from keeping the law (Romans 9:4 Romans 3:28 Galatians 2:19).

Peter and the resurrection: Peter preached the gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7). Israel under the old covenant promises was promised to be a holy nation, a kingdom of kings and priests to rule over the Gentile nations with Christ (Revelation 1:6 Exodus 19:6 Revelation 5:10). Peter preached that the resurrection of Christ gave Israel assurance of that coming kingdom because Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in that prophetic kingdom (1 Peter 1:3 Acts 3:25 Acts 2:30). Peter preached the receiving of the Holy Ghost to empower Israel to enter the kingdom (Luke 24:49 Acts 1:8 Acts 2:33 Acts 2:38).

Paul and the resurrection: Paul taught that Christ was risen for our justification (Romans 4:25).

Peter and works: Peter preached works as necessary for salvation in order to enter the kingdom (Acts 10:35 1 Peter 1:15 1 Peter 2:9 2 Peter 1:10-11). Peter preached to Israel repentance and baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38). Peter preached holiness, and to remain steadfast unto the coming of Jesus and his kingdom (2 Peter 3:17).

Paul and works: Paul taught salvation without works (Titus 3:5 Romans 4:6 Ephesians 2:8-9).

Peter and the church: Peter preached to Israel (Acts 3:12). Gentiles had to come through Israel and it's covenants to be added to the church (Exodus 12:48 Acts 11:1); Gentiles had to believe the preaching of the word delivered to Israel as preached by Peter (Acts 13:48).

Paul and the church: Paul taught the church as the body of Christ, a new creature where there was neither Jew or Gentile (Galatians 6:15 Galatians 3:28 Ephesians 2:14).

Peter and heaven: Peter taught that Israel would receive the kingdom on earth ( Luke 9:2 Luke 9:6 2 Peter 1:11 Acts 2:30). He taught their reward was stored in heaven but not in heaven (1 Peter 1:4).

Paul and heaven: Paul taught the church seated with Christ in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6).

Both Peter and Paul were ordained of God to preach the gospel. Those who believed their gospels are in Christ. Peter's gospel faded away as Israel was diminished, and is not the gospel that is preached today. Paul preaches the gospel by which we are saved today. Paul in his epistles reveal the mysteries and doctrine for the church today.

 

[JRT]

I am in general agreement with you. I quote below from Barrie Wilson:

Paul had no contact with the Jesus of history. He never met him and never heard him preach.
Moreover, Paul stresses he had minimal contact with Jesus’ successors – the Jesus Movement
in Jerusalem. From Paul’s letters we know he was shadowed throughout his missionary
journeys by emissaries from Jerusalem who were convinced that Paul was spreading a deviant
message. In addition, Paul rarely quotes or refers to Jesus’ teachings when formulating or
defending his own point of view against adversaries. In light of these considerations the
question is posed: if we only had Paul, what would we know of Jesus? More broadly, what is the
connection between Paul’s religion and that of Jesus?

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It is concluded that there is only a slim connection between the teachings of Paul and those of
the Jesus of history. Either the life and teachings and teachings of the historical Jesus were not
of interest to Paul or else they were simply not known. His focus is on the Christ figure, the postdeath
and post-resurrected Jesus, who communicates directly with him and through him. This
reinforces the view that Paul was the founder of a separate religion, one about the Christ, not
one centered upon the teachings and mission of Jesus.

 

[Josiah]

I see no difference in their Gospel messages.

It is true their audiences were often different (Paul PRIMARILY focusing on Gentiles, Peter on Hebrews) but the message is the same.




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[JRT]

Paul emphasized what has come to be known as the "Cosmic Christ" --- a figure that is foreign to the historic person of Jesus. In all the epistles he includes approximately 100 words of Jesus and none on important issues, he knows nothing of the Virgin Birth or of Judas. His focus is not the focus of Jesus --- forgiveness, compassion, brotherhood, egalitarianism, the reform of Judaism and an almost complete lack of doctrine, dogma, judgement and condemnation. Couple that with the near total takeover of the Jesus Movement by Gentile and largely Pauline thought by the early second century, we can say that the Christianity of Jesus is not the Christianity we see today.

 

[JRT]

I see no difference in their Gospel messages.

It is true their audiences were often different (Paul PRIMARILY focusing on Gentiles, Peter on Hebrews) but the message is the same.

In an earlier post I quoted some words of Bible scholar Barrie Wilson. You might find his full article to be informative. You can find it at:

http://www.barriewilson.com/pdf/If-We-Only-Had-Paul.pdf

 

[Doug]

Paul emphasized what has come to be known as the "Cosmic Christ" --- a figure that is foreign to the historic person of Jesus. In all the epistles he includes approximately 100 words of Jesus and none on important issues, he knows nothing of the Virgin Birth or of Judas. His focus is not the focus of Jesus --- forgiveness, compassion, brotherhood, egalitarianism, the reform of Judaism and an almost complete lack of doctrine, dogma, judgement and condemnation. Couple that with the near total takeover of the Jesus Movement by Gentile and largely Pauline thought by the early second century, we can say that the Christianity of Jesus is not the Christianity we see today.

Paul was a pharisee and knew the law and the prophets, and preached Christ from the law and the prophets as well as the mystery (Romans 16:25-26).

 

[hedrick]

Paul emphasized what has come to be known as the "Cosmic Christ" --- a figure that is foreign to the historic person of Jesus. In all the epistles he includes approximately 100 words of Jesus and none on important issues, he knows nothing of the Virgin Birth or of Judas. His focus is not the focus of Jesus --- forgiveness, compassion, brotherhood, egalitarianism, the reform of Judaism and an almost complete lack of doctrine, dogma, judgement and condemnation. Couple that with the near total takeover of the Jesus Movement by Gentile and largely Pauline thought by the early second century, we can say that the Christianity of Jesus is not the Christianity we see today.

I agree that attempts to claim they taught the same thing are unconvincing, though you can find some correspondences.

But I would say rather that what we see today combines both emphases. While there are certainly Christians who don't, I think most of us do see forgiveness, compassion, brotherhood and egalitarianism as important to Christian practice. We also see the dying and rising with Christ as important. Different forms of Christianity have different balances, but I think modern Catholic and mainline practice emphasize both. (You'll notice an omission in that list.)

I'll give you the other half (almost complete lack of doctrine, dogma, judgement and condemnation), but I think the rejection of those came more from post-NT developments than Paul. Paul counseled toleration on issues such as eating meat sacrificed to idols and the Sabbath. He had some strong words about Peter and James, but he never called them non-Christians or told anyone to eject them from the Church or burn them at the stake.

 

[JRT]

I think modern Catholic and mainline practice emphasize both. (You'll notice an omission in that list.)

I noticed that glaring omission and you are quite correct.

 

[Josiah]

They had different audiences and perhaps different emphasis - but that's entirely unrelated to having different gospels.

 

[Doug]

I see no difference in their Gospel messages.

It is true their audiences were often different (Paul PRIMARILY focusing on Gentiles, Peter on Hebrews) but the message is the same.




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Galatians 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

If they were all preaching the same gospel why would Paul have to communicate it to them?

 

[Lazy Suesun]

Peter and Paul did not preach the same gospel messages. Below are the differences between the gospels and Apostleship's of Peter and Paul.

Peter's Apostleship: His Apostleship was commanded by Jesus Christ along with the other eleven disciples before Paul. Peter was primarily the Apostle to Israel (Galatians 2:8). Peter's Apostleship was diminishing after Paul was converted.

Paul's Apostleship: Paul was persecuting the church of God before being converted. After his conversion Paul was given revelations from the Lord Jesus Christ; Paul did not learn from any man including the twelve Apostles (Galatians 1:12). Paul was primarily the Apostle to Gentiles (Romans 11:13 2 Timothy 1:11).

Peter's Justification: Peter and the other eleven Apostles taught justification unto eternal life by believing on the name of Jesus; by believing Jesus is Christ, the Son of God (Acts 10:43 Matthew 16:16 Acts 4:12 Acts 2:36 John 20:31).

Peter preached that Israel under the old covenant was redeemed and cleansed by the crucifixion and shed blood of Jesus (Matthew 26:28 Hebrews 9:15 1 Peter 1:2 1 Peter 1:18-19 1 Peter 2:24). Peter preached forgiveness of sin at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 3:19).

Paul's Justification: Paul taught justification unto eternal life by the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18 Galatians 6:14 Colossians 1:20). Justification by faith that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for complete salvation unto eternal life (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Colossians 2:10). Paul taught forgiveness of all sin now by the blood of Jesus (Ephesians 1:7).

Peter's gospel: Peter preached remission of sins in the name of Jesus (Acts 10:43). Peter taught the gospel of the kingdom (Luke 9:2 Luke 9:6 2 Peter 1:11). Israel would inherit the promise of the Davidic kingdom on earth (Luke 1:32 Genesis 13:15). Israel would rule and reign with Jesus for a thousand year period (Revelation 20:6). Israel would be a light for salvation unto the Gentile nations that would enter the kingdom (Isaiah 60:3).

Paul's gospel: Paul taught the gospel of the uncircumcision (Galatians 2:7). Paul taught salvation to all freely by faith in Christ apart from the covenants of Israel, and apart from keeping the law (Romans 9:4 Romans 3:28 Galatians 2:19).

Peter and the resurrection: Peter preached the gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7). Israel under the old covenant promises was promised to be a holy nation, a kingdom of kings and priests to rule over the Gentile nations with Christ (Revelation 1:6 Exodus 19:6 Revelation 5:10). Peter preached that the resurrection of Christ gave Israel assurance of that coming kingdom because Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in that prophetic kingdom (1 Peter 1:3 Acts 3:25 Acts 2:30). Peter preached the receiving of the Holy Ghost to empower Israel to enter the kingdom (Luke 24:49 Acts 1:8 Acts 2:33 Acts 2:38).

Paul and the resurrection: Paul taught that Christ was risen for our justification (Romans 4:25).

Peter and works: Peter preached works as necessary for salvation in order to enter the kingdom (Acts 10:35 1 Peter 1:15 1 Peter 2:9 2 Peter 1:10-11). Peter preached to Israel repentance and baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38). Peter preached holiness, and to remain steadfast unto the coming of Jesus and his kingdom (2 Peter 3:17).

Paul and works: Paul taught salvation without works (Titus 3:5 Romans 4:6 Ephesians 2:8-9).

Peter and the church: Peter preached to Israel (Acts 3:12). Gentiles had to come through Israel and it's covenants to be added to the church (Exodus 12:48 Acts 11:1); Gentiles had to believe the preaching of the word delivered to Israel as preached by Peter (Acts 13:48).

Paul and the church: Paul taught the church as the body of Christ, a new creature where there was neither Jew or Gentile (Galatians 6:15 Galatians 3:28 Ephesians 2:14).

Peter and heaven: Peter taught that Israel would receive the kingdom on earth ( Luke 9:2 Luke 9:6 2 Peter 1:11 Acts 2:30). He taught their reward was stored in heaven but not in heaven (1 Peter 1:4).

Paul and heaven: Paul taught the church seated with Christ in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6).

Both Peter and Paul were ordained of God to preach the gospel. Those who believed their gospels are in Christ. Peter's gospel faded away as Israel was diminished, and is not the gospel that is preached today. Paul preaches the gospel by which we are saved today. Paul in his epistles reveal the mysteries and doctrine for the church today.

There is a school of thought that Paul preached a different Gospel also than did Emmanuel the Christ.

 

[Doug]

There is a school of thought that Paul preached a different Gospel also than did Emmanuel the Christ.

Paul preached faith in Christ and his death and resurrection for justification unto eternal life. Jesus and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom and faith in Christ, they believed only in his name for eternal life, they believed he was Christ, the Son of God.

 

[Josiah]

There is a school of thought that Paul preached a different Gospel also than did Emmanuel the Christ.

Anyone can claim anything.... doesn't make it true.

We here read CLAIMS and QUESTIONS but no evidence of this "two gospels" claim.




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[Lazy Suesun]

Anyone can claim anything.... doesn't make it true.

We here read CLAIMS and QUESTIONS but no evidence of this "two gospels" claim.




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I had thought that as well until I started looking on my own. The same can be said for the claim regarding Peter and Paul.

 

[Lazy Suesun]

Paul preached faith in Christ and his death and resurrection for justification unto eternal life. Jesus and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom and faith in Christ, they believed only in his name for eternal life, they believed he was Christ, the Son of God.

The Twelve walked with God, Emmanuel, God with us, and were taught by the Creator himself the truth of eternal salvation. What a time to be alive and walk with the master of all creation and hear him teach his eternal truth.