The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

[hobie]

Well, we know that we're getting "closer" because we've been on this road for 2 thousand years and He will come again someday. The problem is that some people want to interpret the signs into thinking that His return is more immediate when there has been devastation in history and they thought the same thing.

When He returns He will be here. You won't know the day or time.

So do you think the accumulation all coming together is just the new normal...

the raging country wide fires in Brazil...
Reflecting on a Tumultuous Amazon Fire Season

And Australia...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50951043

the over a thousand earthquakes in the Caribbean since December..
https://www.fox61.com/article/news/magnitude-5-2-earthquake-shakes-puerto-rico/520-2f05ccb4-274a-4a24-bad2-d8a3a43cfa0c

the locust...
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/epgz7m/unprecedented-swarms-of-locusts-are-devouring-crops-and-slamming-into-planes-in-east-africa

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iran-afflicted-by-large-swarms-of-desert-locusts-amid-coronavirus-woes-619807

to say nothing of the political turmoil...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/21/politics/biden-trump-rally-slow-testing-down-covid/index.html

and worldwide pandemic...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html

 

[hobie]

Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.

Matthew 16:1-4...

 

[NewCreation435]

We've been living in the end days since Jesus ascended into heaven. Since then almost every generation thought this was the very end where he'll come...but He didn't. So just like scripture says, we don't know the day or time.

No, I never said we knew the day or time. But, Jesus clearly told us we should be ready for him to return at any time.

 

[Lamb]

No, I never said we knew the day or time. But, Jesus clearly told us we should be ready for him to return at any time.

Yes, by remaining in faith to Him and trusting that when He returns we will be with Him for all eternity. Believers should never fears Christ's return for Judgment Day because we are covered in His righteousness.

 

[hobie]

Now we see the events that happen at the Second Coming, and one that is clear is the righteous dead are raised:

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:16

Only the righteous who are "in Christ" are resurrected at the second coming. The rest of the dead are not resurrected until after the 1000 year millennium:

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Revelation 20:4-5

The righteous are raised in the first resurrection and no longer face the second death and go to heaven, the unrighteous or wicked are not raised until the thousand years are finished:

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.Revelation 20:6

Christ speaks of the first resurrection of life for the righteous:

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:28-29
Here, Christ tells us that all shall hear His voice. He talks of two resurrections "the resurrection of life", and "the resurrection of damnation". These two events are separated by a thousand years as we see from "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished." in Rev 20:5. Now the righteous living are taken up with the righteous who have been resurrected:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17

The living righteous "we which are alive" will be gathered together with the resurrected righteous to meet the Lord in the air. The righteous living will not taste death, but will be translated as were Enoch and Elijah as we see here:

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54

The living righteous are changed "in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet" and even more:

20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Philippians 3:20-21

Our bodies will be changed into the likeness of His glorious body.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure 1 John 3:2-3

Neither the righteous saints who are living nor the dead in Christ who are resurrected will have to fear death anymore:

8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.
9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation. Isaiah 25:8-9

But for the wicked their is another path "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished" which is after the thousand years are finished, that leads to the second death:

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Revelation 2:11

 

[Lazy Suesun]

It fascinates me how much history I've lived to see written. I enjoy reading Christian Eschatology sites that parallel the foretelling of the signs of the second coming of Emmanuel with current events. What is interesting also is how much that is happening now also parallels foretelling of the Anti-Christ.

It's an amazing time to be alive. Never fear. Enjoy the ride.

 

[hobie]

Yes, by remaining in faith to Him and trusting that when He returns we will be with Him for all eternity. Believers should never fears Christ's return for Judgment Day because we are covered in His righteousness.

Yes, and this is even if He comes tomorrow..

 

[hobie]

Now Christ comes to take us up to heaven, not wander about on earth for a thousand years. Here is a good study on Revelation 20 that explains it...

"In summary, this is what the Bible says about the 1,000 years:

1. The righteous are raised at the beginning of the 1,000 years (vs. 4-6)
2. The “rest of the dead” are raised at the end of the 1,000 years (vs. 5a)
3. Satan is bound during the 1,000 years (vs. 3)
4. Satan is loosed when the “rest of the dead” are raised (compare verses 5 and 7)
5. Satan gathers the lost for a battle against God’s city (vs. 8)
6. A judgment occurs, then the lost go into the lake of fire (verses 9, 14, 15)
7. Then the old earth passes, and the new earth comes (21:1)

It should be noticed that Revelation 20 does not specifically say that Jesus Christ will rule on earth during the 1000 years from the present city of Jerusalem...."

Part 1: What the Bible Says About the 1,000 Years | White Horse Media

 

[hobie]

At the Second Coming, the first resurrection takes place. The righteous, the "blessed and holy," are raised for "over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years" (Revelation 20:6).

We see the living righteous and the dead in Christ who are resurrected and they and the living saints are caught up "to meet the Lord in the air" (1 Thessalonians 4:17) and taken to Gods kingdom in heaven. Christ will fulfill the promise He made just before He left this world: "'I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also'" (John 14:2, 3).

Jesus described the place to which He will take His followers as "'My Father's house,'" where there are "'many mansions,'" or dwelling places (John 14:2). Here Jesus refers to the New Jerusalem, which does not come to this earth until the end of the millennium. (Revelation 21:1-2)

At the Second Coming, then, when the righteous "meet the Lord in the air," their destination is heaven, not the earth that they have just left. Christ does not establish His kingdom of glory on the earth at this time. He does that at the end of the 1000 year millennium. So the saints are in heaven with Christ, here is another study on this.. https://www.amazingfacts.org/news-a...887/t/where-will-we-be-during-the-millennium-

 

[Lamb]

Yes, and this is even if He comes tomorrow..

Well he hasn't come in the past week yet

I see a lot of people starting to worry about end times and they're losing focus on living their lives and need to continue in living in their vocations. Paul warned the people of his time to keep going about their lives so take heed.

 

[hobie]

Well he hasn't come in the past week yet

I see a lot of people starting to worry about end times and they're losing focus on living their lives and need to continue in living in their vocations. Paul warned the people of his time to keep going about their lives so take heed.

2 Peter 3:1-4

 

[Lamb]

2 Peter 3:1-4

Christians don't deny that Jesus will return. It's just that we aren't stopping everything to worry about it. Why? Because we believe that we have forgiveness of our sins and will have eternal life. It's that simple.

 

[hobie]

Christians don't deny that Jesus will return. It's just that we aren't stopping everything to worry about it. Why? Because we believe that we have forgiveness of our sins and will have eternal life. It's that simple.

But you have to look at the signs and see where you are at, and we certainly are seeing them.

 

[hobie]

So what happens at this point and how, 40 days after His resurrection, Jesus led His disciples to a clearing and a cloud of angels came and Jesus was raised up into the cloud.

6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:6-11

Jesus ascended literally, bodily, in full view of His disciples and followers. And note that as they watched Him go up, two angels appeared and said He would come back "in like manner" as He went up. Thus Christ's Second Coming will be literal, bodily, and visible to normal human eyes. Paul told the early believers to keep looking for the visible return of Jesus, not some 'Secret Rapture'. But one in which "every eye shall see him"....

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7

During the millennium the thousand-year period which Revelation 20 shows us, Satan's will be bound or his influence over the earth will be restricted, and Christ will reign with His saints He has taken with Him to heaven.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 20:4

So all that follow Christ will be in heaven. and will live and reign there for the thousand years. The saints reign as "priests of God and of Christ" and no longer have to fear the second death.

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Revelation 20:6

 

[hobie]

So at the Millennium or the 1000 year reign of Christ is with His saints, and the Bible says it is in heaven between the first and second resurrections, not on earth. During this time the wicked dead will be judged and the earth will be utterly desolate, without any living human inhabitants, but occupied by Satan and his evil angels. We read in scripture what is the things that will happen to those who have rejected God :

And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, 'Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?' Revelation 6:15-17

The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries. Psalm 110:5-6

There is no peace or joy expressed here by these people and those who lead them at the second coming of the Christ. Those who are there at the end and continue in the hold of sin and iniquity rather than turn their lives to Christ and hate the saints and only want to destroy His faithful will be struck down at His coming. And God is not a respecter of persons and we see of position as the heads of nations will give an account for their actions as well as the people.

And then shall the wicked be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thessalonians 2:8

These people will be struck down and their bodies will be strewn over the earth. Satan will be revealed for what he is, and he sees the results of his rebellion against God.

And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth, even unto the other end of the earth; they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. Jeremiah 25:33

They cannot be gathered, lamented or buried because no living being will remain on earth.

I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form and void; and the heavens, they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled, and all the hills moved back and forth. I beheld, and indeed there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens had fled. I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land was a wilderness, and all its cities were broken down at the presence of the Lord, by His fierce anger. For thus says the Lord: 'The whole land shall be desolate; yet I will not make a full end.' For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black, because I have spoken. I have purposed and will not relent, nor will I turn back from it. Jeremiah 4:23-28

Jeremiah says, "I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void; and the heavens, they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled, and all the hills moved back and forth. I beheld, and indeed there was no man".Jeremiah's use of the terminology found in Genesis 1:2, "without form, and void," indicates that the earth is to become comparable as it was at the beginning of Creation.

Scripture shows the 1000 years after Christ takes up the saints to heaven and the earth then becomes desolate with nobody but Satan left on it. Since the righteous saints go up with Christ and the wicked are destroyed at His appearing, the earth stands for a time without human inhabitants.

 

[Lamb]

But you have to look at the signs and see where you are at, and we certainly are seeing them.

See where you are at? You aren't going to know. That's only for God to know where the world is at when it comes to Jesus' 2nd coming for Judgment Day. No one will know the day or time. It's been appearing to man that they THINK Jesus will come any second ever since he ascended into heaven. And as I said, Paul spoke about that and told the people to get back to work and doing what they do.

 

[hobie]

See where you are at? You aren't going to know. That's only for God to know where the world is at when it comes to Jesus' 2nd coming for Judgment Day. No one will know the day or time. It's been appearing to man that they THINK Jesus will come any second ever since he ascended into heaven. And as I said, Paul spoke about that and told the people to get back to work and doing what they do.

So are you glad in your heart to see the signs or something else. For believers they are filled with joy to be done with all this mess we have down here.

 

[Lamb]

So are you glad in your heart to see the signs or something else. For believers they are filled with joy to be done with all this mess we have down here.

I answered this already in post 24

The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Well, we know that we're getting "closer" because we've been on this road for 2 thousand years and He will come again someday. The problem is that some people want to interpret the signs into thinking that His return is more immediate when there has been devastation in history and they thought...

christianityhaven.com

 

[hobie]

So why have a 1000 years, with just the saints in heaven, what are they doing. The Bible clearly shows that all of our actions are written before the Lord, and that they are brought forth and used in the day of judgment. The book of life and others are there, and now the saints come and look at what they hold. The facts which are brought up in the judgment before God, are not for the use of God alone. The saints in heaven and even the angels must see and know that God's judgments are just. He does not choose to rule arbitrarily, but to have the saints and angels see that He is true, even in judgment. So the books with the record of the lives of men must be laid open to the view of all. The deceit of the heart, secret sinful acts, unknown to all but God and His recording angels, will be revealed. The saints will have a 1000 years to go over the books and will see that their friends who are lost are justly condemned as well as the fallen angels.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3 King James Version (KJV)
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Everything is recorded...

Malachi 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name.

All our actions and words are kept in remembrance; they are written in books by angels. Moses asked to be taken out of the book, which we see was the book of life, if the people could not be forgiven...

Exodus 32:30-32 King James Version (KJV)
30 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the Lord; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
31 And Moses returned unto the Lord, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.

Revelation 3:5 King James Version (KJV)
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Revelation 20:12-15 King James Version (KJV)
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[NewCreation435]

We've been living in the end days since Jesus ascended into heaven. Since then almost every generation thought this was the very end where he'll come...but He didn't. So just like scripture says, we don't know the day or time.

Yes, you keep saying that, but we are told to be ready for him to return at any moment.