Georgia reopened...media is quiet about numbers

[Lamb]

My cousin owns a salon in Georgia and was one of the first to open her business back up when the Governor allowed it to happen a week and a half ago. The media cried that the virus would get out of control in that state and people would be dropping like flies. That didn't happen.

I've been monitoring the cases every couple of days and what I'm seeing is that the numbers are dropping daily. Yes there are still cases and there are still deaths but the extreme that was predicted DID NOT HAPPEN!

 

[tango]

Would that be the same media that said there would be north of 2 million deaths in the US, but now present 60,000 deaths as if it were an unmitigated disaster?

 

[psalms 91]

To bad our governor doesnt get the message

 

[tango]

To bad our governor doesnt get the message

Looking at the stats for PA it seems like the most obvious thing to do would be to release just about the entire state. Rural counties with barely a few dozen cases in total remaining locked down looks more like the handiwork of an overbearing dictator than anyone who's actually making rational decisions.

 

[NerdGirl123]

The MSM (mainstream media) always has an agenda. ALWAYS. Never think otherwise. So, ask yourself why they report what they do. Imagine the ratings and subscriptions they've been reaping throughout this pandemic. Do they want to lose any of that? Of course not. They'll make sure you think the world is on fire and going to hell for as long as they possibly can, because the truth takes a back seat to ratings and political agendas.

 

[NerdGirl123]

To bad our governor doesnt get the message

The longer a governor can declare a State of Emergency, the more federal funds he gets. It's all about the $$$.

 

[tango]

The longer a governor can declare a State of Emergency, the more federal funds he gets. It's all about the $$$.

The trouble is that if people are locked down for too long things get ugly.

I read a very good article about the lockdown and how governors have, largely arbitrarily, defined winners and losers. The losers, thus far, have pretty much accepted their fate and complied with orders even if very grudgingly. As the article commented, nobody can expect the losers to simply lie down and lose everything, enduring the total destruction of everything they have worked for. Even those who aren't losing literally everything can only expected to go without for so long before they start to push back.

When literally millions of people are thrown out of work and onto an unemployment system that can't cope and up going several weeks with zero income, when business owners are told they can't have a paycheck and end up struggling to put food on the table (because obviously they still have to eat, and bills still fall due), we have to ask the question how long this can last before people start to push back as hard as it takes. If the police and courts overreact (some news reports indicate business owners being jailed for opening their business, even as criminals are released because apparently jails are too dangerous) people lose confidence in the normal system.

It's really hard to see this ending well at all.

 

[psalms 91]

The longer a governor can declare a State of Emergency, the more federal funds he gets. It's all about the $$$.

If it is that is criminal as how many small businesses will have to close because of this

 

[hedrick]

Before we start looking at conspiracy theory, there's a reasonable explanation. It takes at least 2 weeks to see the results of a policy change. Incubation is 5 to 14 days. People don't go to the hospital the instant they get the disease. Depending upon the State there are delays between admissions and when state statistics show them.

Statistics are also noisy, so we're not going to be able to see a trend clearly right at the 2 week mark.

For what it's worth, the IHME model predicts that with the moderate loosening, the infection and death rates will remain roughly constant during May, and start declining in June. George might well consider that acceptable.

 

[Lamb]

Before we start looking at conspiracy theory, there's a reasonable explanation. It takes at least 2 weeks to see the results of a policy change. Incubation is 5 to 14 days. People don't go to the hospital the instant they get the disease. Depending upon the State there are delays between admissions and when state statistics show them.

Statistics are also noisy, so we're not going to be able to see a trend clearly right at the 2 week mark.

For what it's worth, the IHME model predicts that with the moderate loosening, the infection and death rates will remain roughly constant during May, and start declining in June. George might well consider that acceptable.

I thought the incubation was 2 to 14 days? Plus Georgia has the rapid testing so they don't have to wait 10 days to get results so by now we should have seen an increase in numbers if it was going to start to happen.

 

[hedrick]

The longer a governor can declare a State of Emergency, the more federal funds he gets. It's all about the $$$.

Unfortunately no. It doesn't look like the Feds are going to give money to the States. The CARES act gave some, but not nearly enough to counteract the loss of tax revenues. This disease is going to be a disaster for states, and the longer it lasts the worse it gets.

 

[hedrick]

By the way, I think it's fine to start relaxing outside the urban areas. I just don't like to see this accompanied by conspiracy theory.

 

[NerdGirl123]

Unfortunately no. It doesn't look like the Feds are going to give money to the States. The CARES act gave some, but not nearly enough to counteract the loss of tax revenues. This disease is going to be a disaster for states, and the longer it lasts the worse it gets.

"Unfortunately no" what? States have to declare a state of emergency before qualifying for federal aid. My state has received $7,000,000 already, and we are a small state. And yes, it is completely possible to obtain more funds from other federal resources by renewing the declaration of a state of emergency. From a local article: "(HUD regional administrator) says ___ and other states with approved disaster declarations could receive additional disaster relief funding from HUD down the line."

 

[NerdGirl123]

I don't think anyone would argue that this is not a financial disaster for most of the world, including the U.S. That's not the purpose of this thread at all.

 

[tango]

Before we start looking at conspiracy theory, there's a reasonable explanation. It takes at least 2 weeks to see the results of a policy change. Incubation is 5 to 14 days. People don't go to the hospital the instant they get the disease. Depending upon the State there are delays between admissions and when state statistics show them.

Statistics are also noisy, so we're not going to be able to see a trend clearly right at the 2 week mark.

For what it's worth, the IHME model predicts that with the moderate loosening, the infection and death rates will remain roughly constant during May, and start declining in June. George might well consider that acceptable.

Before we're too quick to discount something underhand going on, if I recall there are 18 county coroners in PA who dispute the official COVID death tolls for their counties. 18 coroners out of 67 suggests something isn't right.

It's also curious to see that the state was locked down on a county-by-county basis until the fuhrer decided to just shut down "everything that's still open", but is being reopened on a region by region basis with no apparent rhyme nor reason as to how counties are grouped into regions. Remote rural areas are being included in the same region as denser urban areas nearly two hours drive away. When an entire county has less than 50 total cases it's hard to see why it needs to stay shut down.

 

[Lamb]

Good news for Georgia!

Georgia reports lowest number of COVID patients in a month

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp announced on Saturday that the state had the lowest number of hospitalized coronavirus patients it's had in over a month.

www.foxnews.com

 

[hedrick]

Here's a summary of all the states that are reopening, with graphs of their cases. Many, maybe even most, have cases at a plateau but not going down. Health experts would like to see the cases going down, but many states may think it's OK as long as they stay constant and don't start going up a lot.

See Reopening Plans and Mask Mandates for All 50 States (Published 2021)

Much of the country has fully reopened after a year defined by patchwork coronavirus restrictions.

www.nytimes.com

 

[tango]

... and in the meantime counties with less than 50 cases in total are expected to stay locked down.

 

[Lamb]

Here's a summary of all the states that are reopening, with graphs of their cases. Many, maybe even most, have cases at a plateau but not going down. Health experts would like to see the cases going down, but many states may think it's OK as long as they stay constant and don't start going up a lot.

See Reopening Plans and Mask Mandates for All 50 States (Published 2021)

Much of the country has fully reopened after a year defined by patchwork coronavirus restrictions.

www.nytimes.com

My state has admitted to adding to the number of cases/deaths where no test had been given. They have even lied about hospitalization numbers.

 

[psalms 91]

Our state is counting prisoners cases which is preventing my county fromreopening, need to get rid of these so called experts. Prisoners do not roam our community therefore their numbers should not be counted toward reopening