Did Abraham conjure up his own faith...

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My position is this: God is probably correct.

I have no argument and no position other than that.

I (and others) have quoted - accurately and verbatim - EXACTLY what God has stated. What God has stated clearly, boldly and repeatedly.

It seems to bother you greatly.

Because what God states obviously, undeniably, flat out contradicts you, you conclude that you MUST do something VERY radical with God's words ... YOU are thus mandated to SPIN them.... radically..... in ways no one before the late 16th Century ever did and 99% of Christians stll don't .... SPIN them so radically as to demand that God actually "MEANS" is the exact opposite of what He so clearly, so boldly, so very often has verbatim STATED. 180 degrees.

It seems to bother you greatly that I won't join you in what you feel you've just gotta DO to God and His Word.


You are simply doing what the devil did in the Garden.... allowing a quote of God's Word but then appointing yourself to ask questions about it that imply God is wrong, then insisting His words must be twisted and spun 180 degrees to make God right. I'm not going to bite.


See post 166.



A blessed Holy Week to you and yours...


Josiah





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God is correct. Now show me why your interpretation of scripture is correct.
But, you refuse to do that, which is precisely why what you are doing is illegitimate.

 

[Josiah]

Now show me why your interpretation of scripture is correct.

I've not given any interpretation. No need to spin anything.
I've not shared any position - only that IMO God is probably correct.

I just quoted - verbatim and accurately - EXACTLY what God so often, so clearly, so boldly has stated. I don't share your deep, deep felt need to SPIN God's words 180 degrees.

I've verbatim quoted exactly what God so often, so clearly, so boldly, states.... and this obviously, undeniably, flat out contradicts you, So you conclude that you MUST do something VERY radical with God's words ... YOU are thus mandated to SPIN them.... radically..... in ways no one before the late 16th Century ever did and 99% of Christians still don't .... SPIN them so radically as to demand that what God actually "MEANS" is the exact opposite of what He so clearly, so boldly, so very often has verbatim STATED.

It seems to bother you greatly that I won't join you in what you feel you've just gotta DO to God and His Word.

See post 166



You are simply doing what the devil did in the Garden.... allowing a quote of God's Word but then appointing yourself to ask questions about it that imply God is wrong, then insisting His words must be twisted and spun 180 degrees. I'm not going to bite.





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I've not given any interpretation. No need to spin anything.
I've not shared any position - only that IMO God is probably correct.

I just quoted - verbatim and accurately - EXACTLY what God so often, so clearly, so boldly has stated. I don't share your deep, deep felt need to SPIN God's words 180 degrees.

I've verbatim quoted exactly what God so often, so clearly, so boldly, states.... and this obviously, undeniably, flat out contradicts you, So you conclude that you MUST do something VERY radical with God's words ... YOU are thus mandated to SPIN them.... radically..... in ways no one before the late 16th Century ever did and 99% of Christians still don't .... SPIN them so radically as to demand that what God actually "MEANS" is the exact opposite of what He so clearly, so boldly, so very often has verbatim STATED.

It seems to bother you greatly that I won't join you in what you feel you've just gotta DO to God and His Word.

See post 166



You are simply doing what the devil did in the Garden.... allowing a quote of God's Word but then appointing yourself to ask questions about it that imply God is wrong, then insisting His words must be twisted and spun 180 degrees. I'm not going to bite.





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Exactly. You haven't done anything except quote a couple sentences and imply that the meaning is obvious.
I reject your implication as horrific Bible study method that results in false doctrine. It is the Bible study method of Islam. That is how Muslims approach the Bible. They quote sentences and say "see what it says."

Here's a Bible verse. I won't expound on it. I'll use your method. See what it says and create your theology from this one statement. No peeking at context. Just accept the verse on its own.

Luke 4:7 If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours.”

That is exactly what you are doing with your pasting of sentences and then leaving it as though you have made your point.

I look at the context surrounding your verses and realize you are all wet and very poorly using God's word to claim a false doctrine.

You need to own what you are doing instead of dodging like a chicken who doesn't want to be caught.

 

[Josiah]

Exactly. You haven't done anything except quote...

... GOD.

Verbatim. Accurately. Word-for-word.
What God says over and over and over, in MANY Scriptures.
Clearly.
Boldly.

I don't share your extreme, passionate need to SPIN them 180 degrees.

I reject your implication

All the "implying" is on your side - all that the MANY verbatim statements of God ain't true.

All the spinning is on your side - all the insist God "MEANS" the opposite of what He flat out, verbatim, repeatedly states.

See post 166



You are simply doing what the devil did in the Garden.... allowing a quote of God's Word but then appointing yourself to ask questions about it that imply God is wrong, then insisting His words must be twisted and spun 180 degrees. I'm not going to bite.






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... GOD.

Verbatim. Accurately. Word-for-word.
What God says over and over and over, in MANY Scriptures.
Clearly.
Boldly.

I don't share your extreme, passionate need to SPIN them 180 degrees.






All the "implying" is on your side - all that the MANY verbatim statements of God ain't true.

All the spinning is on your side - all the insist God "MEANS" the opposite of what He flat out, verbatim, repeatedly states.

See post 166



You are simply doing what the devil did in the Garden.... allowing a quote of God's Word but then appointing yourself to ask questions about it that imply God is wrong, then insisting His words must be twisted and spun 180 degrees. I'm not going to bite.






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You use tunnel vision on scripture to your own detriment. So be it. You're not worth talking to on this issue anymore. You have to answer to God for your position and I have to answer to God for my position. Best wishes.