Does "For Ever" mean forever?

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We see it in many instances, so its not just to me.

Could you please provide a biblical scripture example that has a word used twice in the same paragraph but has 2 separate meanings for that word since you made the claim that you see it in "many instances"?
 

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You're jumping all over the place here. Try sticking to the verse in question and explaining why "eternal" means eternal but then it doesn't mean eternal. Otherwise all you've got is the equivalent of one person saying "You went to the bank? Wow, I went to the bank too!" and trying to draw conclusions based on nothing in particular who went to a financial institution and who went for a walk beside the river.
 

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Could you please provide a biblical scripture example that has a word used twice in the same paragraph but has 2 separate meanings for that word since you made the claim that you see it in "many instances"?

That one can be done, it's quite easy. When Jesus said "Simon Peter, do you love me?" and he replied "Lord you know I love you". The difference is in the Greek - Jesus used agapeo and Simon used phileo. The third time Jesus asked the text records Peter being unhappy that Jesus asked, when it was apparently the same question he asked twice already. Except the third time Jesus shifted to phileo, effectively meeting Peter where he was and indicating that what Peter had to offer was good enough.

I suspect if the example of "eternal" that apparently means "everlasting" and "not everlasting" in the same sentence were this easy you'd have been given a similarly easy answer by now.
 

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That one can be done, it's quite easy. When Jesus said "Simon Peter, do you love me?" and he replied "Lord you know I love you". The difference is in the Greek - Jesus used agapeo and Simon used phileo. The third time Jesus asked the text records Peter being unhappy that Jesus asked, when it was apparently the same question he asked twice already. Except the third time Jesus shifted to phileo, effectively meeting Peter where he was and indicating that what Peter had to offer was good enough.

I suspect if the example of "eternal" that apparently means "everlasting" and "not everlasting" in the same sentence were this easy you'd have been given a similarly easy answer by now.

No pastor I've ever encountered who knows the languages has ever stated that the Greek words for "eternal" were different in the scripture I had quoted. It's the same word, not a different one like you've given in your examples.
 

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No pastor I've ever encountered who knows the languages has ever stated that the Greek words for "eternal" were different in the scripture I had quoted. It's the same word, not a different one like you've given in your examples.

Sure, the example I used was when the English word is the same but the underpinning Greek is different. As I mentioned, if the answer to "eternal" was as easy as this I suspect the OP would have said so in one paragraph rather than using dozens of paragraphs to obfuscate.
 
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