Universal basic income & the robot revolution.

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There are people who make a living out of predicting trends in technology and possible (they might say likely or highly probable) changes in society and culture that will be the result of new technologies when they are introduced. Some get called "futurologists". I've heard some of them as they make their predictions (prognostications) and the ones I've heard have not sounded very convincing.

And when I watch old science fiction movies that gave dates for Moon bases, visiting Mars, space ships, faster than light travel (which I suspect is purely a plot device because the times taken in real light speed limited travel would break most sci fi plots into sagas of century long and longer durations), and time travel they all seem to have been seriously inaccurate. The Jetsons cartoon predicted we'd all have flying cars by now but obviously we're nowhere near such things yet.

So maybe the near future - say the next 100 years - is not going to be as amazingly different from now as some have predicted. One hundred years ago many, even most, of the substantial things that people had are still with us now. In 1919 people had phones, cars, trains, wide spread commercial aeroplanes were not yet around but came soon, they had electricity, and if you look at house designs from that period and even appliances they had many perhaps most of what we have now. Ours are improved in some ways and also less durable in other ways.

Maybe in 2119 people will still be doing most of the things we do in 2019 and in fundamentally similar ways with essentially the same equipment. Maybe the great robot industrial revolution that is predicted is not about to replace human labour and bring about almost universal unemployment, voluntarism, and a star trek like egalitarian atheist paradise of almost violence free and completely poverty free planetary civilisation - with the only violence being between humans and mean Klingons or Romulans!
 

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I think that a hundred years ago people worked harder than we do today...well, for most of us. We have an automated lifestyle. Computer everything and only having to touch a button. Maybe we're closer to the Jetsons than you think?
 

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Well, honestly, a lot of people not only don't respect Universal Basic Income - but they despise anyone not holding "a real job". They don't consider "time wasted" watching elderly, kids - to be real work. Some don't consider college study to be legit replacement for work - and - of course, all of them probably hate starving artists. In other words, some guy using Patreon to make money - when he should be at least flipping burgers.

I think that a hundred years ago people worked harder than we do today...well, for most of us. We have an automated lifestyle. Computer everything and only having to touch a button. Maybe we're closer to the Jetsons than you think?

Yes, certainly - throwing some clothes in a washer - isn't doing it by hand! Also, no comparison between push and riding lawnmowers. Can anyone name more examples?
 

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Yes, certainly - throwing some clothes in a washer - isn't doing it by hand! Also, no comparison between push and riding lawnmowers. Can anyone name more examples?

My washer broke a couple weeks ago so I had to do my laundry by hand and I'm telling you it was hard to do! My arms just aren't strong enough.

Baking bread was still done in many homes a hundred years ago.

Outhouses were still popular in rural areas (they still are around my Amish neighbors LOL).
 

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My washer broke a couple weeks ago so I had to do my laundry by hand and I'm telling you it was hard to do! My arms just aren't strong enough.

Baking bread was still done in many homes a hundred years ago.

Outhouses were still popular in rural areas (they still are around my Amish neighbors LOL).

I don't have a clue how to wash clothes by hand - even where to start! Where do you even buy the material to do it?

Anyway, in poorer nations - washing by hand is still the way it's done.
 
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