Are College Students Already Biased?

[Lamb]

College students blast quotes and then find out they're Obama's:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/college-students-obama-immigration-racist-trump

"College students largely reject President Trump's immigration policies as racist, but some were surprised to learn that former President Barack Obama also touted the deportation of criminal aliens, Campus Reform's Cabot Phillips said on "Fox & Friends" Friday.

In 2014, Obama touted his administration's deportation policy in an immigration address from the White House.

"We are a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable, especially those who may be dangerous. That’s why over the past six years deportations of criminals are up 80 percent, and that’s why we’re going to keep focusing on threats to our security," Obama said."

continued with

"Phillips said his takeaway was that young people have become "radicalized" on the issue of illegal immigration, arguing that the deportation of criminals is something that was generally agreed upon when Obama was in office.

"I think you could attribute a Mother Teresa quote to Donald Trump and many college students would say that's evil and that's coming from a place of hatred," he said."

 

[psalms 91]

I believe in many ways they are but at the same time when you have a President that says and does ourragious things it is hard not to be. No matter how you slice it Trump had insulted women, our own intelligence agency and at the very least paid hush money to people. This is not the type of person you want running your countery.

 

[Lamb]

I believe in many ways they are but at the same time when you have a President that says and does ourragious things it is hard not to be. No matter how you slice it Trump had insulted women, our own intelligence agency and at the very least paid hush money to people. This is not the type of person you want running your countery.

Did you read where it says the quotes were from Obama? They got all upset by the quotes. Read the article. Their bias was in place and any quote upset them and that's the point that was made. If they had known it was from Obama in the beginning, do you really think they would react the same about the words that were quoted???

 

[Andrew]

Extreme bias 100%!
https://youtu.be/Vj9IxVlLRl0

 

[Lamb]

At the 2:12 minute mark listen to that girl! She's so focused on hating Trump that she has no clue how to answer the question when Obama is exposed for deporting more people!!

 

[psalms 91]

Did you read where it says the quotes were from Obama? They got all upset by the quotes. Read the article. Their bias was in place and any quote upset them and that's the point that was made. If they had known it was from Obama in the beginning, do you really think they would react the same about the words that were quoted???

Probably not

 

[Lamb]

Probably not

Then you're admitting they're going into this with bias?

 

[psalms 91]

I liive close to a major college and I know that right or left republican or Democrat they pretty much all have a bias of some sort but they are not alone you have biases and so do I we all do. Nothing new there what is new is the mean spiriteness and the refusal to compromise and give. Major reason nothing gets done anymore at the congressonal level. People seem to forget that we can disagree and not get hateful

 

[Lamb]

I liive close to a major college and I know that right or left republican or Democrat they pretty much all have a bias of some sort but they are not alone you have biases and so do I we all do. Nothing new there what is new is the mean spiriteness and the refusal to compromise and give. Major reason nothing gets done anymore at the congressonal level. People seem to forget that we can disagree and not get hateful

In other words, yes, they are biased in that video.

 

[JRT]

I have never met a person who was free of bias. I know that I am not. Are you?

 

[Andrew]

I have never met a person who was free of bias. I know that I am not. Are you?

Fact checking and being corrected and accepting it and not blindly drawn to imitate the crowd isn't really being bias, just today on facebook a news story was circulated about a 92 year old immigrant man beaten with a brick who was told to go back to their country. Right away everyone jumped on with the "racist white supremacist" labeling and before I joined in on the conversation I checked the sources.
Turns out it was an African American woman who beat the man with a brick, I posted the full news video and no one will respond, they won't even take back their false accusations because they get upset if you expose their false narratives.
This story was actually a year old but they love to pull the race cards around this time before next years election.
https://youtu.be/ZJkdDWJ657w

 

[psalms 91]

In other words, yes, they are biased in that video.

Yes lamm I think that point was made a while ago. As io said we are all biased every one of us.

 

[tango]

I have never met a person who was free of bias. I know that I am not. Are you?

There's a difference between having a degree of bias, and having the level of bias where it is assumed that anything spoken by this person is inherently bad while anything spoken by that person is inherently good.

It's interesting to see the difference in levels of support when someone is asked "what do you think of the idea of doing X?" and when the exact same proposal is suggested but presented as "what do you think of the idea, presented by Donald Trump, of doing X?".

Of course it's not as if it's just the silly fringe of the left wing that shows this kind of bias - I remember when the ACA was first proposed the concepts presented in isolation to Republicans were supported far more than when they were presented as being part of "Obamacare".

 

[psalms 91]

There's a difference between having a degree of bias, and having the level of bias where it is assumed that anything spoken by this person is inherently bad while anything spoken by that person is inherently good.

It's interesting to see the difference in levels of support when someone is asked "what do you think of the idea of doing X?" and when the exact same proposal is suggested but presented as "what do you think of the idea, presented by Donald Trump, of doing X?".

Of course it's not as if it's just the silly fringe of the left wing that shows this kind of bias - I remember when the ACA was first proposed the concepts presented in isolation to Republicans were supported far more than when they were presented as being part of "Obamacare".

And there we have it, bias exists in all.

 

[Lamb]

Once the author of the quote was properly revealed the bias should have been dropped. Rational people would drop their bias and see the problem in their thinking. It's hypocrisy to cry that one person is bad for saying something but not the other. If it's a bad quote then it's bad for everyone to say it.

 

[psalms 91]

Once the author of the quote was properly revealed the bias should have been dropped. Rational people would drop their bias and see the problem in their thinking. It's hypocrisy to cry that one person is bad for saying something but not the other. If it's a bad quote then it's bad for everyone to say it.

Yeah and when Trump makes the outragious and inflammatory statements he makes one would think that they would be condemned but his base is rabid and will try to spin anything he says or does. I agree that it is on both sides but really where is the common sense let alone the common decency

 

[Lamb]

Yeah and when Trump makes the outragious and inflammatory statements he makes one would think that they would be condemned but his base is rabid and will try to spin anything he says or does. I agree that it is on both sides but really where is the common sense let alone the common decency

Why aren't these students showing the same outrage when Obama makes statements they disagree with?

 

[psalms 91]

Why aren't these students showing the same outrage when Obama makes statements they disagree with?

because they are the opposite side of Trump supporters and neither is right. What is needed is a sense of morality and doing what is right and having a spirit of compromise, the way we are going as a country and this nation will fall if it continues

 

[Andrew]

because they are the opposite side of Trump supporters and neither is right. What is needed is a sense of morality and doing what is right and having a spirit of compromise, the way we are going as a country and this nation will fall if it continues

I don't know about that. Letting in undocumented immigrants makes it tough for law enforcement agencies if they commit a crime, how do we know if they have committed murder in another country or not? Wouldn't you want the protection of knowing that everyone is accounted for?
The reason the narrative has changed from 'for border control' to against it is because they want legal citizen votes for illegals, this will secure their power. Not only that but cheaper labor breaks the economy if we are fixed at a certain min wage, with open borders it is impossible for the republic for which we stand to stand any longer.
Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were for border security, so what do you believe happened in 2016? Why all of a sudden do they oppose it and why is the media so focused on calling out Trump when they were applauding for border control before?
Think about it... why the 180 in 2016? A quote from these dems on border control all of a sudden sounds like a Trump tweet!
Why is that??

 

[hedrick]

Not only Biblical statements, but current political statements are subject to interpretation. Both Obama and Trump have said that undocumented immigrants have violated the law. But their overall attitudes were different (though not as different as some think). So it's not entirely unreasonable that people who take a statement like that and interpret it differently depending upon who made it.

In a purely logical sense, whether a statement is racist is completely independent of who made it and what they may have done outside of making that statement. But that's not how normal humans use language.

Immigration is a particularly difficult issue. There is simply no Biblical justification for turning away strangers in need just because of where they were born. However it is probably impractical for the US to absorb the entire population of the third world. As a result, every president has been involved in actions for which it is very hard to provide any real Christian justification, simply because they see no alternative.

Still, not every president has intentionally used anti-immigrant sentiment to get elected.