John the Baptist beheaded

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IN Matthew 14:1-12 it tells the story of John the Baptist beheading by Herod. Herod wanted to kill John but it says he was afraid of the people because they also considered him a prophet. Also, in another passage it says that he enjoyed listening to him. But, Herodias' mother filled with the desire to get rid of John used the opportunity of Herod's birthday and Herod's oath to have John beheaded.
I guess what my question here is that if John's mission on earth was over at that point, then why didn't God just take him to heaven naturally such as dying in his sleep rather than such a violent method?
I am assuming since John fulfilled his mission of being the forerunner of Jesus and preparing the people that his mission was basically over at that point
 

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IN Matthew 14:1-12 it tells the story of John the Baptist beheading by Herod. Herod wanted to kill John but it says he was afraid of the people because they also considered him a prophet. Also, in another passage it says that he enjoyed listening to him. But, Herodias' mother filled with the desire to get rid of John used the opportunity of Herod's birthday and Herod's oath to have John beheaded.
I guess what my question here is that if John's mission on earth was over at that point, then why didn't God just take him to heaven naturally such as dying in his sleep rather than such a violent method?
I am assuming since John fulfilled his mission of being the forerunner of Jesus and preparing the people that his mission was basically over at that point

I'm surprised this thread didn't have any responses yet!

I guess we don't really know why God allows some of his followers to die horrible deaths. Tradition tells us that all but the disciple John died less than pleasant deaths as well.

This is one more reason that I don't buy into the "if we have enough faith God will make our lives super happy here on earth". Because of history we see that isn't true. Our happiness on earth isn't promised by God. We have joy in the knowledge that Jesus died for us and believers will have eternal life with God.

Maybe one reason that some followers are allowed to die violent deaths is to show that they would rather die than deny God?
 

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Maybe one reason that some followers are allowed to die violent deaths is to show that they would rather die than deny God?

I think this says it all. refusing to deny God is a statement that says you can kill my body, but you can't kill my faith. I would rather die a martyr's death than to deny God. By doing so, shows how much a person trusts and believes God.
 

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Also the message is powerful and I am sure that many have been converted because of someones faith
 

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I think this says it all. refusing to deny God is a statement that says you can kill my body, but you can't kill my faith. I would rather die a martyr's death than to deny God. By doing so, shows how much a person trusts and believes God.

It reminds me of when Daniel's friends said they would not bow down to Nebuchadnezzar's idol even if God didn't save them from the furnace.
 

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John the Baptist has an everlasting testimony. And what he experienced is honestly the normal Christian life. Suffering is a part of our testing. "He who endures to the end shall be saved" (Matt 10:22) God has to prove us in this life if we are to attain to the promises of God to "those who overcome." (this is beyond "being saved" as I'm sure all reading this are... This is about attaining to the promises of God in Revelation 2 & 3, which are only for those who "overcome.")

As the writer of Hebrews speaks of those of the faith, he writes -
"Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.
39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us."

- Heb 11:35-40

That "something better" is not an easier salvation, or the promise of no suffering, but rather a greater understanding of God's plan & purpose, and the Holy Spirit to "guide us into all Truth." For those will be perfected, and so will we if we have the faith that those men did; which was proven by their works. So the author continues writing to the saints -

"For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. 5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:
“My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”
7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons."

- Heb 12:3-8

May we be counted among those who are His "sons" & "daughters." As Paul also writes -
"Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
18 “I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.”

- 2Cor 6:17-18

We may have 'accepted Christ', but has the Father "received us"? He will, IF we are faithful and obedient and "endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ" until our end. John the Baptist was. He preached Truth even when imprisoned. The Apostles all were martyred or tortured, and held fast to the end in their obedience and faithfulness to Christ and God. And by the Spirit we can too. That is what the bulk of the New Testament is about; standing our ground even when the religious leaders persecute us and hate us for speaking Truth.

"You will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved."
- Mark 13:13

Amen.
 

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[Matthew 5:10-12 NASB] "Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. "Blessed are you when [people] insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[Romans 8:18 NASB] For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

[Revelation 6:9-11 NASB] When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.

Why? ... For John’s good and God’s glory.
 
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