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What does Richard Dawkins have to do with anything?

You say you wanted to believe but couldn't or didn't want to believe?

God doesn't save unrepentant unbelievers.

I go by the Bible and not by your story of what you think happened or not.
I did NOT choose NOT to believe, I just couldn't believe, I believed once God intervened, ever heard of Thomas? He couldn't believe either, Jesus had to pay him a special visit, I was a doubting Thomas. It's part of my testimony so I'm sorry if you think it offends God in any way, I'm just not going to do what you ask of me by rejecting how God saved me. I'm not advocating that God hasn't saved you, so please don't advocate that he didn't save a wretch like me.
 

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I did NOT choose NOT to believe, I just couldn't believe, I believed once God intervened, ever heard of Thomas? He couldn't believe either, Jesus had to pay him a special visit, I was a doubting Thomas. It's part of my testimony so I'm sorry if you think it offends God in any way, I'm just not going to do what you ask of me by rejecting how God saved me. I'm not advocating that God hasn't saved you, so please don't advocate that he didn't save a wretch like me.

God does NOT save unrepentant wretches.
 

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You are mocking God.

Grace is that you don't have to bring a sheep to the temple to atone for your soul.

You still have to do what God says to do.
Are you now calling yourself God?
Could I bring a sheep to the river to atonement for my soul? Perhaps to the butcher and have a nice mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich?
 

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You are if you don't repent of your sins.
You have to believe in repentance to repent, you have to believe sin exist to repent of them. A dead atheist can not repent because he finds no benefit in doing so... God especially saves the unrighteous, he does not come to save the righteous, I believe you got it backwards.
 

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Are you now calling yourself God?
Could I bring a sheep to the river to atonement for my soul? Perhaps to the butcher and have a nice mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich?

You keep mocking God.
 

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You have to believe in repentance to repent, you have to believe sin exist to repent of them. A dead atheist can not repent because he finds no benefit in doing so... God especially saves the unrighteous, he does not come to save the righteous, I believe you got it backwards.

You believe wrong.

Believe God who says repent or perish, and believe or die in your sins.
 

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You assume I never repented, you assume wrong

Are you kidding? You are the one who is going against the scriptures saying you didn't do anything.
 

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Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners"
"All have sinned "

Whom did Jesus come to redeem?

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Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners"
"All have sinned "

Whom did Jesus come to redeem?

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Jesus came to save sinners. All are sinners.

That is proof that one must admit to being a sinner before Jesus saves you.

That is why Pharisees weren't saved.

They didn't want to admit they sinned.
 

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We have to do what Jesus says to get saved.

Jesus tells us how to get saved.

Jesus says to humble yourself and to repent.
 

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Romans 10:9-10
 

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Romans 10:9-10

If you say with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, you had better be obeying him.

Read this scripture. This scripture is about people who declare with their mouth Jesus is Lord. Are they just going to be saved because they declared with their mouth that Jesus is Lord? NO!

Matthew 7:21
Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Luke 6:46 "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?
 

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Are you kidding? You are the one who is going against the scriptures saying you didn't do anything.
So you assume I never repented nor got baptised? I did what God put in me to do, I'm not debating against repentance or baptism or good works, I'm stating that none of these will save you, Christ atonement is what saves his faithful.
 

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So you assume I never repented nor got baptised? I did what God put in me to do, I'm not debating against repentance or baptism or good works, I'm stating that none of these will save you, Christ atonement is what saves his faithful.

Romans 10:9 is not just about confession it's also about belief
Believe In Your Heart



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So you assume I never repented nor got baptised? I did what God put in me to do, I'm not debating against repentance or baptism or good works, I'm stating that none of these will save you, Christ atonement is what saves his faithful.

What your post says is a nonsense. Clearly the holy scriptures teach that unless one repents and unless one believes the gospel when the opportunity to do so is present then one cannot expect to be saved. So while it is true that the work that is the effective cause of salvation is the work of the Lord Jesus Christ and not any work done by human beings apart from him it is also true that the work of the Lord Jesus Christ is effective for those who do repent and believe the gospel and not effective for those who refuse to repent and reject the gospel. The message in the holy scriptures and in the preaching of Jesus Christ himself is repent and believe the gospel because the kingdom is at hand so do it and live or reject it and see what results.
 
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