What do Pentecostals believe?

[Andrew]

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[Confessional Lutheran]

I've no idea. What do they believe?

 

[Andrew]

I've no idea. What do they believe?

It's basically Catholicism without all the Catholicism

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[Imalive]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6vd_C5KX_lk

 

[Imalive]

Pentecostalism in Holland. Holland Wonder 1958. I got saved in the church of the guy who translated him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL...-Vv&params=OAFIAVgD&v=bqqU7m1JZns&mode=NORMAL

 

[Andrew]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6vd_C5KX_lk

This!

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[atpollard]

Here is the statement of beliefs from the Pentecostal Church I attend:

The Essentials Of What We Believe

ABOUT GOD
God is the Creator and Ruler of the Universe. He has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These are co-equal and are one God. Genesis 1:1, 26, 27; 3:22; Psalm 90:2; Matthew 28:19; I Peter 1:2; II Corinthians 13:14

ABOUT JESUS CHRIST
Jesus Christ is the only Son of God. In His incarnation Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all people by dying on a cross. He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death. He ascended to Heaven’s glory and will return again someday to earth to reign as King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.Matthew 1:22-23; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-5, 13:10-30; Hebrews 4:14-15; I Corinthians 15:3,4; Romans 1:3,4; Acts 1:9-11; I Timothy 6:14; Titus 2:13

ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT
The Holy Spirit is co-equal with the Father and the Son of God, He inspired Holy men of old to write the Scriptures. Through illumination He enables men to understand the truth. He exalts Christ. He convicts of sin, of unrighteousness, and of judgment. He calls men to the Savior, and effects regeneration. He cultivates and, is the source of Christian character, comforts believers, and bestows the spiritual gifts by which they serve God through His church. He seals the believer unto the day of final redemption. His presence in the Christian is the assurance of God to bring the believer into the fullness of the stature of Christ. He enlightens and empowers the believer and the church in worship, evangelism, and service.We believe that a believer is baptized into the body of Christ by the Holy Spirit at the time of salvation (I Corinthians 12:13). However, following salvation a believer, by offering himself/herself to God as a living sacrifice, (Romans 12:1,2) can experience a deeper work of the Holy Spirit in which the believer is said to be “filled with the Spirit” (Ephesians 5:18). This experience speaks of the Holy Spirit possessing the spirit and soul of the believer. As a believer is yielded to the Lord and controlled by Him, some or all of the nine primary gifts of the Holy Spirit (I Corinthians 12:7-11) will operate through the believer, empowering him to carry the Five-Fold ministry of Jesus (Luke 4:18). There are nine primary gifts of the Holy Spirit, seven are tools to cultivate the nine primary gifts of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22,23) in a believer’s life. We believe that the evidence of being filled with the Spirit is the fruit of the Spirit exhibited in a believer’s life, and one or more of the nine primary gifts may accompany this filling. The experience itself is received by faith. II Corinthians 3:17; I Corinthians 12:7-11,13; Ephesians 1:13, 5:18; Galatians 5:22-23; Acts 1:8

ABOUT THE BIBLE
The Bible is God’s Word to us. It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living. Because it is inspired by God, it is the truth without any mixture or error. II Timothy 1:13, 3:15; II Peter 1:20-21; Psalm 119:105, 12:6; Proverbs 30:5

ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS
People are made in the spiritual image of God, to be like Him in charcter. People are the supreme object of God’s creation. Although every person has tremendous potential for good, all of us are marred by an attitude of disobedience toward God called “sin.” This attitude separates people from God and causes many problems in life. Genesis 1:27; Psalm 8:3-6; Isaiah 53:6, 59:1-2; Romans 3:23

ABOUT SALVATION
Salvation is God’s free gift to us but we must accept it. We can never make up for our sin by self-improvement or good works. Only by trusting in Jesus Christ as God’s offer of forgiveness can anyone be saved from sin’s penalty. When we turn from our self-ruled life and turn to Jesus in faith we are saved. Eternal life begins the moment one receives Jesus Christ into his/her life by faith. Salvation is maintained by the grace and power of God, not by the self-effort of the Christian. It is the grace and keeping power of God that gives us His security.Romans 5:1, 6:23; Ephesians 2:8-9; John 1:12, 14:6; Galatians 3:26; I Peter 1:3-5

ABOUT ETERNITY
People are created to exist forever. We will either exist eternally separated from God by sin, or eternally with God through forgiveness and salvation. To be eternally separted from God is Hell. To be eternally in union with Him, is eternal life. Heaven and Hell are real places of eternal existence.John 2:25, 3:16, 5:11-13; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:15; Matthew 1:8, 2:44-46

THE LIFESTYLE STATEMENT

Beliefs are not worth much unless they are translated into actions. Based on what the Bible teaches, we feel very strongly about the following seven practices:

BIBLE AS OUR SOLE AUTHORITY
“The whole Bible was given by inspiration from God and is useful to teach us what is true and make us realize what is wrong in our lives; it straightens us out and helps us to do what is right.” II Timothy 3:15
Since God’s word is the only completely reliable and truthful authority, we accept the Bible as the manual for living. The Bible is the basis for what we believe.

AUTONOMY OF THE LOCAL CHURCH
“Christ is the head of his Body, the church. He is the source of the Body’s life…” Colossians 1:18 (GN)
Christ is the recognized head of the church, not any person, group or religious organization. While recogizing the value of associating with other groups of Christians, we believe every local church should be self-governing by the appointed pastor God has placed and independent from any denominational control.

PRIESTHOOD OF THE BELIEVER
“Christ loves us, and by his death he has freed us from our sins and made us a kingdom of priests to serve God.” Revelation 1:6
“You are… the kings’s priests… God’s own people, chosen to proclaim the wonderful acts of God.” I Peter 2:9.
The Bible teaches that every Christian is called to “full-time” Christian service, reguardless of his/her vocation. We practice the truth that every believer is a minister by encouraging every member to find a place of service and ministry. Every member has direct access to God through prayer and Bible reading.

TITHING
“A tithe of everything you produce belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord.” Leviticus 26:30. We recognize that a 10th of our income, especially to those that are in leadership positions in the church, is the Biblical standard of giving.

IMMERSION
“For when you were baptized, you were buried with Christ, and in baptism you are raised with Christ…” Colossians 2:12.

SPIRIT-LED LIVING
(Jesus said) “I am the Vine, you are the branches. If you abide in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; but apart from me you can do nothing.” John 15:5.
We believe the only possible way to live the Christian life is by God’s power within us. So we seek to practice a daily dependence on God’s spirit to enable us to do what is right. Philippians 2:13; Ephesians 5:18.

TELLING OTHERS ABOUT CHRIST
“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have…” I Peter 3:15
It is the responsibility of every Christian to share the Good News with those God brings us into contact with. We practice sharing about Christ and inviting friends to Church.

Any questions?

 

[user1234]

Here is the statement of beliefs from the Pentecostal Church I attend:



Any questions?

(Lol, I hit preview before submitting, and it disappeared. Where did the body of your post go??!!)

Anyway, my reply→
Sounds pretty good to me except for one question and thats one part under 'human beings', it says that we have the potential for good but we're marred by sin which is an attitude of disobedience towards God.

Does your church also believe that we're born with a sin nature (as in inherited from Adam) or is the disobedient attitude strictly something we grow into or choose to have, almost from a 'neutral' nature?

Also, not axquestion, but just a matter of opinion on a secondary issue, I dont really believe in 'tithing' or 'God gets a tenth' (at least) as New Testament believers...and especially not as law (not saying your church teaches it as law)
But as a private matter, if a person wants or needs a structure of sorts for financial planning, 10% is probably a good starting place and I think many churches encourage that as a good idea.

 

[Andrew]

(Lol, I hit preview before submitting, and it disappeared. Where did the body of your post go??!!)

Anyway, my reply→
Sounds pretty good to me except for one question and thats one part under 'human beings', it says that we have the potential for good but we're marred by sin which is an attitude of disobedience towards God.

Does your church also believe that we're born with a sin nature (as in inherited from Adam) or is the disobedient attitude strictly something we grow into or choose to have, almost from a 'neutral' nature?

Also, not axquestion, but just a matter of opinion on a secondary issue, I dont really believe in 'tithing' or 'God gets a tenth' (at least) as New Testament believers...and especially not as law (not saying your church teaches it as law)
But as a private matter, if a person wants or needs a structure of sorts for financial planning, 10% is probably a good starting place and I think many churches encourage that as a good idea.

Original sin in the Pentecostal movement is more a concern or focus of spiritual warfare, the great battle against the prince of darkness within our daily lives. Adam and Eve disobeyed God and we openly disobey God on a daily basis and often seek forgiveness through a pope or priest with accompanied ritualised works....
Against any earthly mediator(s) between God and man, some protestants maintain a "no works" attitude, suggesting no further change or outcome in the sinners lifestyle is necessary which may have a few of them wondering "then what shall we do?"... and so these people retreat from continuing on with the perpetual schism and into a more simplified version of the "problem of sin", which to Pentecostals revert to "turning away from sin" all together. This experience requires the believer to "believe" what he or she is praying for in their lives and as evidence -not only to themselves but to their peers also- a pronounced and definite noticeable change should take place in that persons life. This is Gods grace manifested through belief in the believer and by the support of his believers in Jesus name.

"Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed." John 6:27

Also here is a nice quick little video that might help you with the the origins and beliefs of the Pentecostal church.
https://youtu.be/rojaIPfJD20

As far as tithing....

lol
Its about what you can dish out, ten percent is fair but I am going through a "barely making it through" kind of moment in life

 

[Albion]

Original sin in the Pentecostal movement is more a concern or focus of spiritual warfare, the great battle against the prince of darkness within our daily lives. Adam and Eve disobeyed God and we openly disobey God on a daily basis and often seek forgiveness through a pope or priest with accompanied ritualised works....
Against any earthly mediator(s) between God and man, some protestants maintain a "no works" attitude, suggesting no further change or outcome in the sinners lifestyle is necessary...."

Ah, the old SOME Protestants argument again.

There probably are "some" Protestants who can be found somewhere believing in almost any idea the mind of man can think up. More important is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Protestants and Protestant churches reject this notion.

 

[Imalive]

Ah, the old SOME Protestants argument again.

There probably are "some" Protestants who can be found somewhere believing in almost any idea the mind of man can think up. More important is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Protestants and Protestant churches reject this notion.

There probably are some? 5 of the 10 virgins

https://www.charismamag.com/spirit/spiritual-growth/18158-8-signs-of-hypergrace-churches

 

[user1234]

Ah, the old SOME Protestants argument again.

There probably are "some" Protestants who can be found somewhere believing in almost any idea the mind of man can think up. More important is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Protestants and Protestant churches reject this notion.

This term 'protestants' still keeps being used, but I'm never really sure what its supposed to mean especially in 2017.
Is it supposed to be any (professing) christian that isnt RomanCatholic?
Or a portion of the body that only includes certain denominations? If so, which ones?
Also, do ppl who call themselves protestant consider those who ARE NOT protestant not christians either?

 

[Lamb]

The main branches that consider themselves Protestant are in alphabetical order Adventists, Anglicans, Baptists, Calvinists (Reformed), Lutheran, Methodist and Pentecostal.

 

[Albion]

This term 'protestants' still keeps being used, but I'm never really sure what its supposed to mean especially in 2017.

I hear you, but this only underscores what I was saying about a sloppy or slanted use of the term/word.

Is it supposed to be any (professing) christian that isnt RomanCatholic?

that is often the way the word is used. I do not particularly object to that usage, although it is not exactly correct. For instance, Eastern Orthodox Christians are not Protestant although they are not Roman Catholic.

A better determiner would be whether or not the church (or those people) adhere to the standards of the Protestant movement in opposition to RC teaching. Those would be Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, and Sola Gratia.

Also, do ppl who call themselves protestant consider those who ARE NOT protestant not christians either?

Relatively few do that.

 

[Albion]

The main branches that consider themselves Protestant are in alphabetical order Adventists, Anglicans, Baptists, Calvinists (Reformed), Lutheran, Methodist and Pentecostal.

Possibly not Adventists.

 

[Lamb]

Possibly not Adventists.

I found it on Wiki and yeah, I probably wouldn't have included them either.

 

[user1234]

I found it on Wiki and yeah, I probably wouldn't have included them either.

The short list probably leaves out a whole bunch too.
Im still not sure why ppl would want to be identified that way these days, tho.

Denominationaly maybe, I could see, bc diff denoms have diff tenets that diff folks might want to adhere to, but I dont really get the point of the (partial) umbrella label of 'protestant'.
Except...
It almost seems to be a way to say what a person is NOT (RC or EO mainly) than to say what they ARE.

As far as holding to the doctrines of the 'protestant reformation' ... In this day and age, with the info we have and knowledge gained over the last 500 years, isnt it better to hold to the doctrines of The Bible/New Testament and maybe drop at least one label of division, since their are so many saved, ... members of the body of Christ, that have no real affilliation with protestantism?
Including some within some of the denominations on the list?
(i.e. someone might belong to or identify as a Pentecostal or AoG for instance, but not necessarily consider themself a 'protestant'.)
Do you see what I mean?

 

[Albion]

The short list probably leaves out a whole bunch too.

However, she did say that her source identified these as the main groupings, which is probably correct.

Im still not sure why ppl would want to be identified that way these days, tho.

It doesn't especially matter if some people would just as soon not be identified by that term. If they believe X, then its fair to identify them as such. And its not as though this word is an insult.

It almost seems to be a way to say what a person is NOT (RC or EO mainly) than to say what they ARE.

Not really, except for two groups of people: 1. Catholics who try to use it as a kind of insult and 2. people who do not know what the word means.

As far as holding to the doctrines of the 'protestant reformation' ... In this day and age, with the info we have and knowledge gained over the last 500 years, isnt it better to hold to the doctrines of The Bible/New Testament and maybe drop at least one label of division, since their are so many saved, ... members of the body of Christ, that have no real affilliation with protestantism?

My personal opinion is that we routinely classify hundreds of groups of people, things, and ideas in order to make our understanding of them and comparisons between them more accurate and informative...and this one is no exception.

 

[Imalive]

This term 'protestants' still keeps being used, but I'm never really sure what its supposed to mean especially in 2017.
Is it supposed to be any (professing) christian that isnt RomanCatholic?
Or a portion of the body that only includes certain denominations? If so, which ones?
Also, do ppl who call themselves protestant consider those who ARE NOT protestant not christians either?

I thought just the ones who arent catholic. That is it in Holland cause we dont have so many splinter groups here. It's just catholic or protestant: reformed, together on the road, evangelical. So to me all those other denoms are protestant too. Eastern orthodox I'd call catholic. The ones who dont care about Mary I call protestant.

 

[atpollard]

From my experience, Pentecostals believe in original sin (as it is taught in the Bible, but not the Calvinist logical conclusions based upon those scriptures) however it is not a matter heavily stressed. Each person has more than enough willful sin in their life to need a savior without arguing about whether babies are born sinful.

The Tithe is taught from Malachi as a promise from God for a blessing in response to obedience. It is recommended, but not required. It is also the teaching of this particular Pentecostal Church. Since most (if not all) are independent, it is a matter that will differ from local church to local church.

Personally, I disagree with the requirement and recommendation to tithe ... for a variety of scriptural reasons ... yet I choose to voluntarily give 10% just as Abraham voluntarily gave 10% to the King of Salem. No Law, all Grace ... I give the first 10% because it reminds me that I love God more than money.