The war of 1812

[MoreCoffee]

Let me guess.. Australia, Canada, the U.K. and Sweden?

Yep

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Yep

Neat. Well, you certainly ( and quite understandably) have the British point of view of that particular affair and I thank you for sharing that point of view here. It's always good to have more than one perspective on a certain event.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Neat. Well, you certainly ( and quite understandably) have the British point of view of that particular affair and I thank you for sharing that point of view here. It's always good to have more than one perspective on a certain event.

Remember that the British point of view is that it never happened

 

[IACOBVS]

Actually, the United States won from an American perspective. Battle of Baltimore, Battle of New Orleans, that kind of thing.

The US was repulsed from Canada after attacking and trying to conquer it. That's a complete loss. And,and as I said before, the Battle of New Orleans wasn't part of the war at all.

 

[IACOBVS]

Let me guess.. Australia, Canada, the U.K. and Sweden?

Ermmm ... Sweden has a different person as its monarch and isn't part of the Commonwealth.

Oh, never mind. I misread the previous post.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

The US was repulsed from Canada after attacking and trying to conquer it. That's a complete loss. And,and as I said before, the Battle of New Orleans wasn't part of the war at all.

Doesn't count if the combatants don't even know the war's over. The Americans didn't battle themselves, you know.

 

[JRT]

Of course, the Royal Navy stopped impressing American sailors after the war ended, so Madison got what he wanted. Ergo, America won.

Not true. The Brits actually agreed to stop the practice but the Americans started the war anyhow. When the war started there was considerable sympathy for the Americans but then they looted and burned Newark (Niagara on the Lake) and York (Toronto) and other atrocities and that sympathy rapidly evaporated.

 

[JRT]

The Battle of Crysler's Farm is the most ignominious military defeat in American history. An American army of 8000 crossed the St Lawrence River intending to take Montreal. They were met by 800 British regulars (about 60% Canadian) supported by 200 Canadian militia and 100 Indians. It was a complete rout. What really ended the war was that Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo and the British were in the process of transferring that veteran army to Canada. Peace followed promptly.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Not true. The Brits actually agreed to stop the practice but the Americans started the war anyhow. When the war started there was considerable sympathy for the Americans but then they looted and burned Newark (Niagara on the Lake) and York (Toronto) and other atrocities and that sympathy rapidly evaporated.

Hence the burning of Washington, D.C. and the battle of Baltimore. Check.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Had the Brits continued the war with troops from the wars with Napoleon the USA would probably be toast

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Had the Brits continued the war with troops from the wars with Napoleon the USA would probably be toast

Well, then there was the Treaty of Ghent. Apparently, the Americans and the British went from a state of mutual hostility to a state of friendship with that treaty. Who benefited more? The Americans, surely. It was a stepping stone for them to become a major superpower on the world stage.