The war of 1812

[MoreCoffee]

Confessional Lutheran read a book recently about this event in the war of 1812 (it happened in 1814)

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Yeah, well, it was one of our finer moments in a war that apparently " proved" to the rest of the world that our winning the Revolution wasn't a fluke and that we'd defend our sovereignty. Impressing American sailors onto British ships was hardly going to encourage peaceful relations after a war that was still fresh in the minds of people on both sides of the conflict.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Here's a link to an article dealing with the War of 1812 from an American perspective: http://www.pbs.org/wned/war-of-1812/essays/american-perspective/. There are many reasons that we're not taught too much about this particular war in our classrooms.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

In all fairness 9 and to keep things in balance), here is a point of view that those on the British side of the war might have offered: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...812-quite-differently-americans-do-180951852/ There were a lot of conflicting emotions and grudges that carried over from the Revolution into this particular war, which ( strangely enough) isn't given much coverage.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I like this remark

In the 20th, another Canadian historian remarked that the War of 1812 is “an episode in history that makes everybody happy, because everybody interprets it differently...the English are happiest of all, because they don’t even know it happened.”

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

I like this remark

In the 20th, another Canadian historian remarked that the War of 1812 is “an episode in history that makes everybody happy, because everybody interprets it differently...the English are happiest of all, because they don’t even know it happened.”

There it is. I guess all nations downplay certain wars where they don't come up smelling of roses. The quote that got me laughing was that " both sides were happy at the end of the war because both sides believed they won." Here's a rousing cheer for antebellum status quo ! HIP, HIP, HOORAY! Hip, hip, hooray! Hip.. hip, hoo.. oh, whatever.

 

[IACOBVS]

Technically, the Battle of New Orleans didn't even happen during the War of 1812. It occurred after the peace treaty had already been signed. It just took that long for the news of the treaty to reach North America.

On another note, from the Canadian perspective, the US totally and utterly lost the War of 1812. The US invaded Canada, hoping to conquer our territory. The US wasn't successful in its objective, therefore, it lost. End of argument.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Technically, the Battle of New Orleans didn't even happen during the War of 1812. It occurred after the peace treaty had already been signed. It just took that long for the news of the treaty to reach North America.

On another note, from the Canadian perspective, the US totally and utterly lost the War of 1812. The US invaded Canada, hoping to conquer our territory. The US wasn't successful in its objective, therefore, it lost. End of argument.

Of course, the Royal Navy stopped impressing American sailors after the war ended, so Madison got what he wanted. Ergo, America won.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Technically, the Battle of New Orleans didn't even happen during the War of 1812. It occurred after the peace treaty had already been signed. It just took that long for the news of the treaty to reach North America.

On another note, from the Canadian perspective, the US totally and utterly lost the War of 1812. The US invaded Canada, hoping to conquer our territory. The US wasn't successful in its objective, therefore, it lost. End of argument.

There's a nice little song about it all.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Of course, the Royal Navy stopped impressing American sailors after the war ended, so Madison got what he wanted. Ergo, America won.

This is from the USA side ..

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

A bit of humor to go to sleep with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_TVABIVG4Y

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42HhlkVMO0s

 

[MoreCoffee]

Canada won

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Canada won

Actually, the United States won from an American perspective. Battle of Baltimore, Battle of New Orleans, that kind of thing.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Actually, the United States won from an American perspective. Battle of Baltimore, Battle of New Orleans, that kind of thing.

Meh! They lost. Canada won!

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

Meh! They lost. Canada won!

America won.

:smirk:

I love my country as much as you do yours, MC. I'll stand up for it, too. Actually, the Native Americans kind of came out as the big losers in this war, because after the dust settled, they didn't have much of a say regarding the fate of their own continent ever again. Again, the British never impressed American sailors into their Navy again after the Treaty of Ghent and the United States did grow to be the world's only superpower after that. I can kind of understand why Canada has to emphasize their " non- U.S.A." status. It's a completely different country with its own set of cultures, but we probably do have a minor influence on them.

 

[MoreCoffee]

America won.

:smirk:

I love my country as much as you do yours, MC. I'll stand up for it, too. Actually, the Native Americans kind of came out as the big losers in this war, because after the dust settled, they didn't have much of a say regarding the fate of their own continent ever again. Again, the British never impressed American sailors into their Navy again after the Treaty of Ghent and the United States did grow to be the world's only superpower after that. I can kind of understand why Canada has to emphasize their " non- U.S.A." status. It's a completely different country with its own set of cultures, but we probably do have a minor influence on them.

I have more than one country. I've got 4!

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

I have more than one country. I've got 4!

Neat. I hope no country of yours goes to war with another country of yours..

 

[MoreCoffee]

Neat. I hope no country of yours goes to war with another country of yours..

All but one are commonwealth nations.

 

[Confessional Lutheran]

All but one are commonwealth nations.

Let me guess.. Australia, Canada, the U.K. and Sweden?