Interesting perspective on the old testament

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Here's a video from PBS NOVA on the old testament. I think it is interesting.

 

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Here's a video from PBS NOVA on the old testament. I think it is interesting.

It must be good because it makes all the antichrists scream bloody murder in the comment section
 

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I stopped listening at 15:28 where the narrator sets up a false contradiction. Along with leading type questions up to that point and various smaller false statements - it became apparent to me at that time that the purpose of the video is to discredit the Old Testament with intellectual dishonesty.

To wit: The narrator states that between Genesis 7 and 8 there is a discrepancy in the time frame of the flood - from 40 days and 40 nights to 150 days. This is false and a careful reading of the text should show that. The floodwaters increased for 40 days and 40 nights - but the earth remained flooded for 150 days. If that seems like a contradiction then a good analogy would be to open the bath water facet for 40 minutes until the bath is full, but not drain it for another 2 hours.
 

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Stravinsk is perfectly correct.

This is but one of a number of programs in recent years produced for the purpose of discrediting the Old Testament, and therefore the Bible as a whole, by means of intellectual dishonesty.

(Pedrito normally does not view video links offered in CH posts, because he knows that he will be disappointed and even demoralised by the general intellectual dishonesty in those as well.)

Pedrito managed to watch over an hour of the show, to plumb the depths of the subterfuge. He acknowledges Stravinsk’s wisdom in not subjecting himself to the same ordeal.

A few more of the many wrestings of truth, observed by Pedrito, follow. Pedrito wasn’t taking notes, so he has forgotten most of those he identified.

1. Monotheism was portrayed at one stage as having been said to start with Abraham.

However, the lives of Noah and Abraham overlapped by around 50 or 60 years. We would have expected the major centre of civilisation to grow around where Noah settled. Ur. Therefore, they were contemporaries. Abraham learned about the true God from Noah.

Why was there so much paganism around already? We can easily see from the history of Israel, how quickly mankind falls away from the true God and into the worship of beings other than Him.

2. Jewish monotheism was questioned because of the presence of pagan idols in what should have been monotheistic areas and eras.

Pedrito wonders if that could have been because Israel continually strayed from the God Who had rescued them from Egypt and made them a nation? Didn’t God have to continually chastise them for their infidelity?

3. The Jewish Bible was said to have been written by various authors over hundreds of years, as though that somehow diminished its credence. Which it probably would in the eyes of the generally uninformed.

4. The Jews were stated to be Canaanites who rejected living in the city states. They were joined by Canaanite slaves from Egypt. Those slaves somehow brought a monotheism with them that had come from Midian via Egyptian conquest without influencing Egypt itself.

5. There were no weapons lying in the streets of Canaanite cities and towns, as there would have been if those places had been taken by force.

Unless the Israelites chose to inhabit the cities and towns they had conquered rather than build new ones. They might have decided to have a clean up in that case. Just possibly.

6. In a companion program, archaeologists stated (based on pottery finds, etc.) that Jerusalem had been uninhabited for four hundred years before Israelites moved in.

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But what if the assertions made by that program and others like it are true? What if the written history of Israel is falsehood? Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, etc.

Well, didn’t Jesus quote from them as being authoritative and trustworthy? If he didn’t know that they weren’t so, where does that leave all teaching that he was God? That is false, too. And if the concept that he had to be fully God to save mankind be true, there is no saviour. Our faith is in vain. There is no rescue from death. We have but this life.

Even the church that calls itself Catholic makes reference to the Bible when it suits its purpose. So even it is found to have no basis for its claims of exclusivity, authority, or even efficacy.

One must wonder why MoreCoffee even brought the program to our attention.
 
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