Who is the other man in Romans 7?

[MennoSota]

Romans 7:1-4
[1]Now, dear brothers and sisters—you who are familiar with the law—don’t you know that the law applies only while a person is living?
[2]For example, when a woman marries, the law binds her to her husband as long as he is alive. But if he dies, the laws of marriage no longer apply to her.
[3]So while her husband is alive, she would be committing adultery if she married another man. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law and does not commit adultery when she remarries.
[4]So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the one who was raised from the dead. As a result, we can produce a harvest of good deeds for God.

In verses 1-4 Paul shows us that the Law only applies to someone who is alive. When a person dies, the law no longer applies.
Paul then makes the connection for us. We have died with Christ. We are now found in Christ Jesus, not in our selves. When we stand before God who judges our actions, we are found spotless...not because of our own righteousness...but because of Jesus perfect righteousness. Jesus is our propitiation for our sin.
Because we are no longer bound under the weight of the laws judgment, we can completely focus on doing good works to the glory of God. Our debt has been forevermore paid.

 

[Imalive]

Romans 7:1-4
[1]Now, dear brothers and sisters—you who are familiar with the law—don’t you know that the law applies only while a person is living?
[2]For example, when a woman marries, the law binds her to her husband as long as he is alive. But if he dies, the laws of marriage no longer apply to her.
[3]So while her husband is alive, she would be committing adultery if she married another man. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law and does not commit adultery when she remarries.
[4]So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the one who was raised from the dead. As a result, we can produce a harvest of good deeds for God.

In verses 1-4 Paul shows us that the Law only applies to someone who is alive. When a person dies, the law no longer applies.
Paul then makes the connection for us. We have died with Christ. We are now found in Christ Jesus, not in our selves. When we stand before God who judges our actions, we are found spotless...not because of our own righteousness...but because of Jesus perfect righteousness. Jesus is our propitiation for our sin.
Because we are no longer bound under the weight of the laws judgment, we can completely focus on doing good works to the glory of God. Our debt has been forevermore paid.

Yes.
But who's the other? It's not the law.

 

[MennoSota]

Yes.
But who's the other? It's not the law.

I don't understand the question. What "other" are you referring to?
The woman who marries is free to marry another man when her husband dies?
That is irrelevant to Paul's analogy. His point is regarding the fact that the law is no longer applicable to the woman because she is no longer married.
Hence, the law is no longer binding upon we who have died with Christ (see Galatians 2:20).

 

[Imalive]

I don't understand the question. What "other" are you referring to?
The woman who marries is free to marry another man when her husband dies?
That is irrelevant to Paul's analogy. His point is regarding the fact that the law is no longer applicable to the woman because she is no longer married.
Hence, the law is no longer binding upon we who have died with Christ (see Galatians 2:20).

Yes but he also says that they, the ones who listened to him, now were married to another, Christ.
another implicates another one first. i thought the devil, because false gods, sin, but I think he means God. The Northern tribes were married to God. Then adultery w false gods, divorce and then they could only come back if He died and rose and they with Him. So He died to get His adulterous bride back.

They say, ‘If a man divorces his wife,
And she goes from him
And becomes another man’s,
May he return to her again?’
Would not that land be greatly polluted?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers;
Yet return to Me,” says the Lord.

 

[MennoSota]

Yes but he also says that they, the ones who listened to him, now were married to another, Christ.

What?
Nowhere does the text say that. Your statement is bizarre.

another implicates another one first. i thought the devil, because false gods, sin, but I think he means God.

Again, there is nothing in the text to support this bizarre statement of your.

The Northern tribes were married to God. Then adultery w false gods, divorce and then they could only come back if He died and rose and they with Him. So He died to get His adulterous bride back.

What?
There is nothing about this in the text. You are sharing weird teaching not supported in scripture. Is this the stuff that dude in the video is presenting?

They say, ‘If a man divorces his wife,
And she goes from him
And becomes another man’s,
May he return to her again?’
Would not that land be greatly polluted?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers;
Yet return to Me,” says the Lord.

None of this has anything to do with Romans 7. How did you get any of what you stated from Romans 7?
Please consider actually reading and observing the text rather than listening to false teachers.

 

[Imalive]

that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead

it says married to the brethren.

covt w Moses and Israel and the laws was a marriage.

 

[Imalive]

Jeremiah 31:31-33
"Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

 

[MennoSota]

that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead

it says married to the brethren.

covt w Moses and Israel and the laws was a marriage.

Where does it say "married to the brethren?" Please quote the exact verse in Romans 7.

 

[MennoSota]

Jeremiah 31:31-33
"Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Thanks for quoting the New Covenant. You are not addressing Romans 7, however.

 

[Imalive]

Ah. Your translation is different.

Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? 2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
NKJV

Your translation says:

So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the one who was raised from the dead

They left the whole thing out. Must be not Jews who translated it.

 

[MennoSota]

Ah. Your translation is different.

Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? 2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
NKJV

Your translation says:

So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the one who was raised from the dead

They left the whole thing out. Must be not Jews who translated it.

Read verse 4 in either translation and you still can't come up with your interpretation.
Both say the same thing. We died with Christ and the life we now live is found in Christ. (see Galatians 2:20)

 

[Imalive]

Read verse 4 in either translation and you still can't come up with your interpretation.
Both say the same thing. We died with Christ and the life we now live is found in Christ. (see Galatians 2:20)

Yes but the first says they're married to another. Why does it say another? Who were they first married to?

 

[Imalive]

Btw it's not a trick question to come up w a new doctrin. It was. A modalist made this thread to prove the Father died lol, but I just found the question interesting.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Btw it's not a trick question to come up w a new doctrin. It was. A modalist made this thread to prove the Father died lol, but I just found the question interesting.

Paul's analogy is confusing because it is obvious he intends the one who died to be the Christian who "died to the Law" but he talks about the woman being free to remarry because death set her free from the "law of her husband". Sometimes Paul is a confusing writer.

 

[Imalive]

Paul's analogy is confusing because it is obvious he intends the one who died to be the Christian who "died to the Law" but he talks about the woman being free to remarry because death set her free from the "law of her husband". Sometimes Paul is a confusing writer.

Yes Peter said that too.

 

[Imalive]

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