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The rulers in the Catholic Church are anti-Christ. The teaching of this present pope is anathema.


Well, I mean, You know what I mean...

I mean, Popes come, and Popes go...

All Patriarchs come and all go...

Can't get too cranked up about 'em!

The fact that the current one embraces and believes a heretical doctrine has been somewhat problematic, granted...

That is why it is the Ekklesia, and not the Patriarch, that is the Ground and the Pillar of the Truth!

:)

We have all had a bad Patriarch or three!


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You are not even a Calvinist if you reject one of the points. Each point is connected and shown in scripture. To chop one out is to chop out scripture. It's like cutting out vital organs from a human body and claiming the human is still alive, despite the fact that there is no pulse.
Arminians will often say they are 4 point calvinists, 3 point, 2 point, 1 point, etc. What they mean is that they cannot accept the full and total Sovereignty of God over their lives. They hold on to their self as an idol that cannot be destroyed.

All five of the five points of Calvinism are wrong. All of TULIP is unscriptural. If, as you say, one needs to accept all five of the letters of TULIP to be a true Calvinist then being a Calvinist is just shorthand for being unbiblical.
 
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The rulers in the Catholic Church are anti-Christ. The teaching of this present pope is anathema.

Be specific; show which ruler is anti-christ and which teachings of Francis are anathema.
 

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You are not even a Calvinist if you reject one of the points. Each point is connected and shown in scripture. To chop one out is to chop out scripture. It's like cutting out vital organs from a human body and claiming the human is still alive, despite the fact that there is no pulse.
Arminians will often say they are 4 point calvinists, 3 point, 2 point, 1 point, etc. What they mean is that they cannot accept the full and total Sovereignty of God over their lives. They hold on to their self as an idol that cannot be destroyed.
Per Josiah that is...
 

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NOT exactly all that irrelevant to US, yes?


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Irrelevant. I trust God, who is in control. Why worry about something that is entirely in God's more than capable hands?
 

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Well, I mean, You know what I mean...

I mean, Popes come, and Popes go...

All Patriarchs come and all go...

Can't get too cranked up about 'em!

The fact that the current one embraces and believes a heretical doctrine has been somewhat problematic, granted...

That is why it is the Ekklesia, and not the Patriarch, that is the Ground and the Pillar of the Truth!

:)

We have all had a bad Patriarch or three!


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Scripture is the ground of Truth because God has spoken. Interpretation of scripture is not confined to a small group of self-appointed politicians posing as priests.
 

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All five of the five points of Calvinism are wrong. All of TULIP is unscriptural. If, as you say, one needs to accept all five of the letters of TULIP to be a true Calvinist then being a Calvinist is just shorthand for being unbiblical.
You certainly have an opinion. It's based in ignorance and bias so I don't hold it in much esteem.
 

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Well, I don't know about that, but the term appears to mean what I had thought it means. There may be some other term for holding true to the TULIP points. Orthodox Calvinist perhaps.
 

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One was confident that you'd have no substance behind your slur on Francis.
Nah. I'm simply not going to go down a fools rabbit trail with you.
 

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Nah. I'm simply not going to go down a fools rabbit trail with you.

Wasn't it you that made statement that created the diversion?
 

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Returning to the topic from post #311

The Catechism of the Catholic Church doesn't obfuscate. It teaches fairly clearly.
 

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Scripture is the ground of Truth because God has spoken.

Does this mean you believe Scripture that tells you the opposite?

1Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long,
that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in
the house of God,
which is the Church of the Living God,
the pillar and ground of the truth.


Scripture by Paul reveals God saying it is the Ekklesia, the Church,
that is the Ground and the Pillar of the Truth...

Believes thou this?


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Returning to the topic from post #311

The Catechism of the Catholic Church doesn't obfuscate. It teaches fairly clearly.
No...it doesn't. It is a muddy mess of voluminous puss.
 

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Does this mean you believe Scripture that tells you the opposite?

1Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long,
that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in
the house of God,
which is the Church of the Living God,
the pillar and ground of the truth.


Scripture by Paul reveals God saying it is the Ekklesia, the Church,
that is the Ground and the Pillar of the Truth...

Believes thou this?


Arsenios

Go to 2 Timothy for your answer.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Notice there is nothing about all church leaders being inspired by God. In fact, history shows us horrible leaders in every denomination from the very days of the Apostles when they rebuked such terrible leaders.

The church of God is the body of Christ, which has nothing to do with denominations.
 
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