When was Jesus Christ born?

[MoreCoffee]

Thank you for all of your answers. This is very interesting!

Any nearer to a date (if it matters)?

 

[Ruth]

Any nearer to a date (if it matters)?

Not really, lol.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Not really, lol.

That's why I stick with tradition.

 

[Ruth]

That's why I stick with tradition.

Okay.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Okay.

Tradition!

 

[Lamb]

you see nothing , but , nothing ,is random in the scriptures ,,not one day nor time nor feast which the LOrd God set in place .
he was born into the world at the time of the feast of tabernacles according with all the pattern of scripture and he was sacrificed at the time of passover for he is the one the only true passover lamb to end all pass overs "-said John the baptist by the holy spirit ,," behold the LAMB of GOD who takes away the sin of the world .

This is along the lines of what I thought of when I saw this thread...a date doesn't matter but what does matter is God's timing.

When the time had fully come, that's when God sent forth His Son (Galatians 4:4).

 

[Alithis]

The sheep raised around Jersalem were not for meat and wool - they were very special, prized, expensive sheep for sacrifice in the Temple. Because they were expensive, they were watched year around. The presence of shepherds "watching" their sheep says NOTHING about the time of year since they ALWAYS did that, year around. Now, ELSEWHERE, they'd be more likely to do that in the Spring when lambs are born (and often needed care) which some have suggested makes His birth in the Spring, but again, it's irrelevant here: Sheep around Bethlehem were watched year around.




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Lol umm it was around bethleham .and thats about as dodgy theory as i ever heard
.of course they were watched all year,,in summer and autum in the feilds..in winter..in stalls. But any way..bethleham is quite some distance from jerusalam in an age with no cars.

 

[Ruth]

This is along the lines of what I thought of when I saw this thread...a date doesn't matter but what does matter is God's timing.

When the time had fully come, that's when God sent forth His Son (Galatians 4:4).

The date matters to me, pardon me!! That's the gist of this thread!!!

 

[MoreCoffee]

Lol umm it was around bethleham .and thats about as dodgy theory as i ever heard
.of course they were watched all year,,in summer and autum in the feilds..in winter..in stalls. But any way..bethleham is quite some distance from jerusalam in an age with no cars.

Jerusalem to Bethlehem is 4.4 miles; about an hour and a half walk.

 

[tango]

At the time of the feast of tabernacles(also called the feast of trumpets)when God came and made his tent(tabernacle)among men.

In our calender its the end of september..also the time of the 4th bloodmoon this year.
It is fairly wide knowledge these days that dcember 25 has its origin in paganism .but the remembrance of his birth is not lessened by which day it is remembered.

Albeit it would be nice if we could observe it around the correct time.

Chances are it wasn't anytime around December but I don't know if anybody knows for sure.

In many ways it doesn't matter. Christmas (which was previously called Yuletide) is little more than a festival stolen from pagans by Christians who then complain that it was stolen again by the prophets of Mammon.

Jesus never told us to commemorate his birth anyway, so it really doesn't matter whether we mark his birth or what day we choose to mark it.

 

[tango]

Jerusalem to Bethlehem is 4.4 miles; about an hour and a half walk.

... more than that if you're heavily pregnant, or if you're doing it in the blazing heat of an Israeli summer. Or both

 

[MoreCoffee]

Chances are it wasn't anytime around December but I don't know if anybody knows for sure.

In many ways it doesn't matter. Christmas (which was previously called Yuletide) is little more than a festival stolen from pagans by Christians who then complain that it was stolen again by the prophets of Mammon.

Jesus never told us to commemorate his birth anyway, so it really doesn't matter whether we mark his birth or what day we choose to mark it.

Yuletide probably post-dates Christmas.

 

[tango]

Yuletide probably post-dates Christmas.

So many festivals - Yuletide, Saturnalia etc. Either way it seems unlikely Jesus was born on December 25.

Personally I don't mind if people want to celebrate Christmas, I celebrate it myself but not to the lavish extent some do. I do take issue with songs that claim "Jesus Christ was born today" or similar because they are unlikely to be true.

 

[MoreCoffee]

So many festivals - Yuletide, Saturnalia etc. Either way it seems unlikely Jesus was born on December 25.

Personally I don't mind if people want to celebrate Christmas, I celebrate it myself but not to the lavish extent some do. I do take issue with songs that claim "Jesus Christ was born today" or similar because they are unlikely to be true.

I don't see why pagan festivities in December rule out December as the month in which the Lord was born. Can you explain how that works?

 

[Alithis]

look to the scriptures .. they are inspired by God and are truth .
traditions of men are nothing but traditions of men .

i know which one im going to trust .

 

[MoreCoffee]

look to the scriptures .. they are inspired by God and are truth .
traditions of men are nothing but traditions of men .

i know which one im going to trust .

The holy scriptures point more to December than to some other (arbitrary) month. The only objections I've seen to December are

1. That it has pagan associations - which is a complete irrelevance.
2. That it is too cold in Bethlehem in December to have shepherds watching their flock by night in the fields and that is just incorrect.

But we do have more than 1,700 years of tradition locating the Lord's birth in December (in our Calendar).

 

[Alithis]

The holy scriptures point more to December than to some other (arbitrary) month. The only objections I've seen to December are

1. That it has pagan associations - which is a complete irrelevance.
2. That it is too cold in Bethlehem in December to have shepherds watching their flock by night in the fields and that is just incorrect.

But we do have more than 1,700 years of tradition locating the Lord's birth in December (in our Calendar).

must i ask.. ? which scripture . since all the prophets foretell and all the festivals (which GOD established ) are a type and shadow of things to come .. which scripture points to december and in what manner is it backed up from scripture ?

as far as im aware there is nt festival established by god in the month of Tevet (which is the equivalent of our december )nothing in Holy scripture is random .
every word of it is truth . but you're still determined to hold the traditions of men as more reliable ...?

i wont . not ever .

 

[MoreCoffee]

There is the festival mentioned in the gospel according to saint John in chapter ten around verse twenty two.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes but Channikuh is not one of Gods feasts mentioned in Leciticus, it was added much later

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yes but Channikuh is not one of Gods feasts mentioned in Leciticus, it was added much later

It is a feast that the Lord Jesus Christ observed as holy.