What verses does the bible says to use instruments in his holy temple and the difference from his music and the world's music.

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What music is from God and world music is mistaken. What did he told use the music he wants and instruments ?





The bible says what he told us since the time of the bible. Using harps and trumpets he told Israel to use them.





How to know the violin, saxophone, and piano some are the devil things some playtunes are his.





Ask the question what he told us to play and we can use in music ?
 

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I know there are bible verses that say it's OK to use instruments

So any church that says it's wrong to use instruments is wrong themselves
 

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A good friend said this.

Through history music has been made for various reasons


-To motivate people to war


-As an emphasis on a country, patriotic music


- As a tool for rebellion to someone or something


-As a comfort, as in background music to help pass the day or to play at a resturaunt.


-As a way to express love or hate.


-Music specifically for children. Music they understand and relate to.


-Music for relaxation


-Music as a minstry tool


-Music as a worship medium


-Music that tells a story i.e. folk music or similar


-Music intended for evil purposes


-Music intended to uplift and edify


-Music for sexual innuendos, intended to excite or put the mind in a sexual gutter


- Music as a brainwashing tool, to try and change our minds or make bad seem good.


-Music as an emotion builder in movies





Worship can happen with or without music. There is inward, outward and upward worship music.


Outward worship music is made for an audience, presumably to edify them and encourage worship in some churches. The danger can be in placing too much focus on the music instead of God. Inward worship can be a song we sing to ourselves privately to God in worship which can also be upward worship. Both public and private worship should always focus on giving worship and praise to God, so both can be upward.


Music is a tool that needs great care in it's use if the intention is worhip. If the music is deliberately distracting, it isn't the Lord behind it, but the devil.


Like food, there are many preferences people have when it comes to music, even worship music. Some of the compromises to please everyone, or at least attempt it, in churches lead to a sort of music that doesn't really commit. To me it feels like a compromise. One reason people leave churches unfortunately.


IMHO If you're looking to make rock music, then commit to it instead of an in between iffy sounding sort of thing. Don't hold back because rock music doesn't hold back. Rock music is generally aggressive and maybe better suited to a younger audience? I was just working on a speed metal track. 172 bpm, that's fast and why they call it speed metal. Just doesn't fit for worship IMO. And I've decided I don't like speed metal, at least what I've heard. Much too primal for me.


I see the different kinds of music like the various tools in a tool chest. There is one for pretty much every application. The highest use for music is worship , if it doesn't become a distraction, since worship is all about focus on God. The best worship is the worship where I get lost in worship. The music that can lead us into worship, like a calling card. Not a routine we settle into every Sunday. There is a fine line between the real stuff and the fillers. Has to do with the Spirit's leading.


Good messages can be put into non worship music, and "worship like" music can have misleading or even bad messages in it.


I am hooked up with Spotify which has loads of different kinds of Christian music all the way from the old stuff to the most recent stuff. Almost all of it is edifying in some way. Maybe some of this is just the nostalgia in me, but when I played the hymns channel something in me went ahhhhhh. These were tunes we sang in my old church when I was 6. You can hear and understand the words and the music isn't half bad either. Who has ever faulted the song "Amazing Grace" and other similar? The record companies are in the decision making process of most current Christian music and it is often associated with a church like Bethel or Red Rocks. Not sure what their criteria is, and most likely it changes with the vision, but not everyone making these decisions is a believer. In fact the scales may even swing over to more non believers if it's a big record label who also produces other kinds of non Christian music.


Much like the falling away of many churches from our scriptural roots, Christian music is also drifting in some cases, so I think we need to be careful when selecting some of it.
 

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I believe music is just like art. It is a reflection of the soul. If one produces it, it reflects the condition of his soul. If one likes what is produced, it too reflects the condition of his soul as the same.

It is interesting that the first mention of musical instruments belonged to Satans seed line. (Gen. 4:16-22) See (Gen. 4:21) and (1 John 3:12) So we know Satan has his music. But Satan is always imitating, never creating, meaning God originated music.

And was not David the 'sweet Psalmist of Israel'. (2 Sam. 23:1) And did he not play the harp before Saul to settle him when an evil spirit sent by God was upon Saul? (2 Sam. 16:14-23) And David did provide instruments in worship to the LORD. (1 Chron. 23:5)

Music is one of those things that goes straight to the flesh, soul, and spirit, by passing the brain. Which means when there is disagreement in the Church over certain music, all three of these are in contention. A believer may be arguing for certain music because it feeds his flesh and soul, not knowing it is from Satan.

The only hope for a church is to have mature spiritual men of God who lead the church. And who are willing to draw a hard line as to the music which will be used at any time the church meets or at any function of the church. Which probably won't happen because the Church has long ago allowed any type of music in hopes of getting young people in. Like 'youth' is synonymous with 'spiritual'. How silly.

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As I understand it, there are a FEW very, very tiny Protestant groups coming out of Calvinism that hold that instruments are not to be used in worship. I think they are baseless in that view.

Christianity has embraced the arts and widely supported them (a point STRESSED in my "History of Art" class at a secular university). Music and other arts have played an enormous role in Christian worship, architecture, etc.



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Two biblical passages that speak about Satan's role before his fall include Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14. The King James Version of Ezekiel 28:13 states, "The workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created." Based on this verse, some believe Satan was a music leader or was in charge of music in heaven.

Sometimes pipes can be like flute in a style and it is this that organ playing in pianos can be his art.

Always avoid the violin, I avoid the violin and put most trumpets and harps in my music.
 

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Music is just... functional.

It is a CREATION by GOD Himself, and is based in nature.

There is a series of notes called the Overtone Series that happens when a sound is struck, whether that be a knock on wood, metal, or the pluck of a harp string.

The root tones are further apart in the bass, and repeat often within the 1st octave. The 2nd octave adds more complex notes like the 3rd and the b7th. The 4th octave is full of more complex notes.

When even one string is struck on stringing instrument to produce one musical note, that string is actually vibrating ALL... of those notes on the Overtone Series at the same time. What we actually hear is NOT just one single tone, but an amalgamation of all those Overtone Series tones joined together. It simply sounds like one note. Like the note A-440, it vibrates at 440 cycles per second, along with the Overtone Series tones around it.

EACH musical note also has a COLOR FREQUENCY that can be associated with it.

Did GOD create 'color' also? Yes He did!

Each color vibrates at a specific frequency also, which establishes whether it is red, blue, yellow, green, or some other color. There has been much research in the past and even instruments created that joins musical notes with showing their respective color. (see color and music therapy).

What KIND of sound is produced by a musical instrument simply falls within the spectrum of God's creation. Just as there is also sadness, anger, i.e., the full range of emotions in this world, which GOD also created, so likewise music can be written that serves all of them.

Like the orchestra composer Gustav Holst and his composition Mars. He wrote that piece to express Mars, the god of war. Did Holst accomplish that emotion? And does that make that music itself evil? No, it's the 'theme' intended that creates the emotion to express the evil god of war Mars. The music written to accomplish it and produce the emotion isn't evil, but is just functional. And I'm sure Holst had no intention to write 'evil' music. He simply wrote a piece of music to represent each of the 7 planets, and symbolic representations dealing with each one.

 
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