What does one do when one's national leader is a lemon?

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
What does one do when one's national leader is a lemon?

What if he/she is the leader of the political party you prefer to support?
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Pray for them as we should do for every leader
 

Lamb

God's Lil Lamb
Community Team
Administrator
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2015
Messages
32,649
Age
57
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Lutheran
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
I don't know except to pray as bill says.

I'm so afraid for the US because of the candidates we're being offered. I'm not enthused about any of them.
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
I agree but if this nation is being judged as I fear it is then we will get what we deserve in the way of a leader
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Heh ...

I was thinking of Australia's Prime Minister - Malcolm Turnbull
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Guess many countries have problems with leaders
 

Josiah

simul justus et peccator
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jun 12, 2015
Messages
13,927
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Lutheran
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
What does one do when one's national leader is a lemon?

What if he/she is the leader of the political party you prefer to support?

Depends on what country one lives in.... and what is the political processes in place.


In the USA, we have no NATIONAL process of recall (some states do but not the national government). So..... a very unpopular president remains in place for the duration of his term (terms for US executives are fairly short, just 4 years). He will likely find himself impotent, especially if his own party has ceased to support him.

Now, we do have a process for impeachment.... but theoretically, this is for being a criminal not simply for being a "lemon." It's happened twice - last to Bill Clinton. An impeached president MAY then be removed from office, but it's not automatic (and it only happened in one of the two cases of impeachment).

Presidents ebb and flow in popularity - by the general public, by congress, and by their own party. While it tends to effect their political power and influence, our government is not set up so as to permit the chaos of changing leaders as can happen under other systems: it simply is set up differently.



- Josiah
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Bill Clinton was not impeached by the senate hence he was not impeached by the legislative arm of government.
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Impeachment can only be done for a few reasons none of which have to do with popularity
 

Alithis

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
2,680
Location
New Zealand
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
take heart that the lord jesus is coming back and he will utterly over throw all the kingdoms and governments of this world ..
- ALL -
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Yup its what takes place before that I think many are afraid of
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
take heart that the lord jesus is coming back and he will utterly over throw all the kingdoms and governments of this world ..
- ALL -

Kind of like Teliban philosophy isn't it :p
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Yeah they just gom out and shoot tyem and then say hey you need a new leader. Hope it never comes to that
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Before it happened who would have thought that a nation as cultured as Germany would turn to Nazi philosophy and murder millions of Jews, Slavic people, homosexuals, mentally ill, and mentally or medically disabled people?
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
At the time they voted for Hitler it was to restore national pride and to get jobs, not to kill Jews or any of the rest of it
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
At the time they voted for Hitler it was to restore national pride and to get jobs, not to kill Jews or any of the rest of it

But they [the majority] ended up either actively turning them in to be killed or passively allowing it to happen without protest.
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
You mean sort of how we passively allow things to happen? Most will not stand up to overwhelming power
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
You mean sort of how we passively allow things to happen? Most will not stand up to overwhelming power

You are right, most will not. Christ did. Are Christians called to follow his example?
 

psalms 91

Well-known member
Moderator
Valued Contributor
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2015
Messages
15,282
Age
75
Location
Pa
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Charismatic
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Yup but they dont or else we would still have prayer in schools and abortion would be called murder and illegal
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,194
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Yup but they don't or else we would still have prayer in schools and abortion would be called murder and illegal

Prayer in schools? Why not in the home and on the streets and wherever prayer is needed?
 
Top Bottom