What country has the best school systems?

[Ruth]

Does anyone know about the college school systems of other countries?

 

[Jesus Saves]

Asia . The kids in Asia or Asian countries don't give the teachers gruff and their academic standards are higher, and the students are expected to excel in their studies and the grades they receive

 

[Josiah]

Does anyone know about the college school systems of other countries?

NO expert here - at all - but I'm under the impression that all things considered, the USA probably has the best COLLEGES and UNIVERSITIES.... I consider that partly on ratings but also on the number of foreign students who come to the USA for college (especially grad school) paying HUGE, HUGE bucks to do so (it's generally free in their homeland). From what I understand, it's rare to find large numbers of Americans doing all their college work abroad. But this is based on a small sample known to me.

My wife is an teacher (second grade) in public schools..... I think all in all, we have excellent schools and teachers. Problem is: education if often VALUED less here than in Europe or Asia... thus, kids get less support, less help, less encouragment - and therefore, do more poorly in comparison (note how Asian students HERE in OUR schools tend to far out-shine other kids: what's the difference? HOME! PARENTS!). Another problem we have: in many US schools, there are "language learners." It's hard to learn when the students (and parents) don't know English... this puts many of our students at a great disadvantage compared to schools in Japan or China, etc.

Just my less than half cent....


- Josiah

 

[tango]

NO expert here - at all - but I'm under the impression that all things considered, the USA probably has the best COLLEGES and UNIVERSITIES.... I consider that partly on ratings but also on the number of foreign students who come to the USA for college (especially grad school) paying HUGE, HUGE bucks to do so (it's generally free in their homeland). From what I understand, it's rare to find large numbers of Americans doing all their college work abroad. But this is based on a small sample known to me.

My wife is an teacher (second grade) in public schools..... I think all in all, we have excellent schools and teachers. Problem is: education if often VALUED less here than in Europe or Asia... thus, kids get less support, less help, less encouragment - and therefore, do more poorly in comparison (note how Asian students HERE in OUR schools tend to far out-shine other kids: what's the difference? HOME! PARENTS!). Another problem we have: in many US schools, there are "language learners." It's hard to learn when the students (and parents) don't know English... this puts many of our students at a great disadvantage compared to schools in Japan or China, etc.

Just my less than half cent....


- Josiah

It's been a while since I went through the school system in the UK but from what I can see it's going the same way as things over here. We seem to be turning out generation after generation of kids who have been taught what to think, taught how to pass tests, taught that their self-expression is critical, and then unleashed into a world that doesn't care about their feelings or how they think they have expressed themselves, and where failure is a very real phenomenon they will encounter regularly.

Sadly in the pursuit of good test grades above all else, things that can't be objectively measured don't get much time. So kids don't necessarily learn to play nicely, to share, to negotiate, to fully enjoy art etc.

The higher education system is all well and good but increasingly I'm inclined to think that for most people it's a waste of time and money. It doesn't help to spend years and a vast sum of money studying something in huge detail unless you're likely to be able to repay the loans, and if you're going to end up as a highly qualified engineer flipping burgers because you can't find an engineering job you might as well skip the $50k degree, flip burgers without the huge debt, and learn about engineering in your free time.

 

[tango]

NO expert here - at all - but I'm under the impression that all things considered, the USA probably has the best COLLEGES and UNIVERSITIES.... I consider that partly on ratings but also on the number of foreign students who come to the USA for college (especially grad school) paying HUGE, HUGE bucks to do so (it's generally free in their homeland). From what I understand, it's rare to find large numbers of Americans doing all their college work abroad. But this is based on a small sample known to me.

My wife is an teacher (second grade) in public schools..... I think all in all, we have excellent schools and teachers. Problem is: education if often VALUED less here than in Europe or Asia... thus, kids get less support, less help, less encouragment - and therefore, do more poorly in comparison (note how Asian students HERE in OUR schools tend to far out-shine other kids: what's the difference? HOME! PARENTS!). Another problem we have: in many US schools, there are "language learners." It's hard to learn when the students (and parents) don't know English... this puts many of our students at a great disadvantage compared to schools in Japan or China, etc.

Just my less than half cent....


- Josiah

On the language issue, I can't help thinking that if lessons are conducted in English without exception then those learning English as a foreign language will not only learn it much faster but the children who speak English natively won't be disadvantaged either. In the UK more and more public sector notices are written in more and more languages. In theory it's a good idea because it means new immigrants are more likely to understand but in practice it just means there's less requirement on people to learn the national language. Why bother to learn the national language when there's an army of interpreters doing whatever it takes to make sure you never have to?

 

[Josiah]

For HIGHER education (universities), see http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2015.html

In this ranking, the USA completely dominates.

 

[Chris1611]

Depends. Scandinavian countries are great, but for purely results with little care for the well-being of the children; Asia.

Under-postgraduate; USA and UK.

USA has more high-rated universities(a given, considering the population) but the UK is often competing or occupying the top spot and for a fraction of the price(Cambridge/Oxford charge $13,000-14,000 per year).

 

[psalms 91]

I saw Cambridge, a truly impressive place