Trump wooing the evangelicals

[Lamb]

CNN reported about Trump trying to appeal to the evangelical Christians by quoting scripture and then mocked him for saying "two Corinthians 3:17" instead of "second Corinthians 3:27". So nit picky!

Then the story had the report as well that he used the word hell which was another faux pas.

What do you think about Trump and Christians? Someone has to try to win them over right?

 

[psalms 91]

Yes they do but by being genuine rather than frced

 

[Ruth]

I heard a woman interviewed say they want someone who practices their Christianity and she said Trump doesn't do that.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes I agree

 

[Josiah]

CNN reported about Trump trying to appeal to the evangelical Christians by quoting scripture and then mocked him for saying "two Corinthians 3:17" instead of "second Corinthians 3:27". So nit picky!

Then the story had the report as well that he used the word hell which was another faux pas.

What do you think about Trump and Christians? Someone has to try to win them over right?

Trump is hot air, with an ego bigger than Jupiter. And he's quickly becoming a politian, realizing that currently, the "religious right" is KEY in many states to this nomination process. I HOPE "Evangelicals" aren't so easily fooled. Does anyone remember his spousal situation? Where has he been in the pro-life, pro-marriage efforts? Do "Evangelicals" remember that? Do they care (if they don't, are they looking at him as "Evangelicals")?

Any "Evangelicals" remember his two former wives? Any of them remember Ivanka and their "out of wedlock" baby and uber-short marriage? Any of them remember his well-noted cheating? Any "Evangelicals" care? They went ON and ON about Clinton's behavior..... but maybe much worse is okay if it's done by one who has recently become a Republican?

The Donald CLAIMS to be a remember of the Marble Collegiant Church (a liberal Presbyterian - NOT "Evangelical" - church) but the church does not acknowledge his membership. And while he collects Bibles, his frequent misquotes don't indicate that he studies such.

"Evangelicals" supporting this guy just screams hypocrisy to me. Now.... if they want to support him IN SPITE OF his views, his morality, his behavior, his lack of involvement in things they CLAIM to care about .... okay. But that's an admission that their supposed faith/morality and their politics are disconnected, and the reality that they claim to be "Evangelicals" is entirely irrelevant in this regard.



My view.


Pax


- Josiah

 

[psalms 91]

Trump is a joke and if thatis the best Republicans can put up then it will be another democrat for sure

 

[TurtleHare]

Are evangelicals buying his shpeel?

 

[psalms 91]

I truly hope not

 

[Brighten04]

Are evangelicals buying his shpeel?

Yes! Some are cheering him on in hope that he wins.

 

[tango]

CNN reported about Trump trying to appeal to the evangelical Christians by quoting scripture and then mocked him for saying "two Corinthians 3:17" instead of "second Corinthians 3:27". So nit picky!

Then the story had the report as well that he used the word hell which was another faux pas.

What do you think about Trump and Christians? Someone has to try to win them over right?

I've always referred to those books as "One Corinthians" and "Two Corinthians". Maybe it's a cultural thing. Truth be told I'd wonder whether anyone who couldn't figure out that "2 Corinthians" and "Second Corinthians" are the same book should be voting at all.

I seriously wonder whether Trump is just trying to make Republican voters look silly. When Scott Adams created the Dilbert cartoon strip he said that he started off just a bit silly and people kept saying to him "that's just like where I work", so he made it sillier and sillier and the letters kept coming. A favorite trick of political reporters is to try and get someone to contradict themselves to make them look foolish. I wonder whether Trump is just trying to be more and more extreme so he can then point at the Republican voter base as a whole and ask "do you really want to be like these other people?" and pull a final fallacy out of the bag.

 

[Highlander]

I've always referred to those books as "One Corinthians" and "Two Corinthians". Maybe it's a cultural thing. Truth be told I'd wonder whether anyone who couldn't figure out that "2 Corinthians" and "Second Corinthians" are the same book should be voting at all.

I seriously wonder whether Trump is just trying to make Republican voters look silly. When Scott Adams created the Dilbert cartoon strip he said that he started off just a bit silly and people kept saying to him "that's just like where I work", so he made it sillier and sillier and the letters kept coming. A favorite trick of political reporters is to try and get someone to contradict themselves to make them look foolish. I wonder whether Trump is just trying to be more and more extreme so he can then point at the Republican voter base as a whole and ask "do you really want to be like these other people?" and pull a final fallacy out of the bag.

I think that Trump is making the Repub establishment elites look bad -- and not the Repub voters. I also do not think he is pretending to be conservative and is planning to make Repub voters look silly. He has solid support from the conservative Repub base. He also has about 20% of Demos planning to vote for him (including about 20% of blacks). If those numbers hold up, Biden or Sanders will not be able to win the election.

And, to enhance the conservative philosophy he claims to have evolved into, he got one of the conservative icons -- Sarah Palin -- to fly in from Alaska today to endorse him and confirm his conservatism.

And that could be a game changer.

 

[Lamb]

And, to enhance the conservative philosophy he claims to have evolved into, he got one of the conservative icons -- Sarah Palin -- to fly in from Alaska today to endorse him and confirm his conservatism.

And that could be a game changer.

Do you think Sarah Palin will help him or harm his campaign? She isn't well loved by a lot of my Facebook friends

 

[Ruth]

Do you think Sarah Palin will help him or harm his campaign? She isn't well loved by a lot of my Facebook friends

Sarah Palin has been a joke for a long time, I hope everyone knows that!

 

[psalms 91]

I thinkk she will hurt him

 

[Josiah]

Do you think Sarah Palin will help him or harm his campaign? She isn't well loved by a lot of my Facebook friends

I suspect she will solidify his support among SOME who already support him..... and solidify rejection for many who already reject him. SOME of his supporters will become more energized but I don't think it will move the numbers any.

IMO, she is a worse joke than he is.... and her "endorsement" just confirms to me why I reject him. I'm a conservative, Christian Republican.... but Trump (and Palin) are a great embarrassment to me, and I am greatly troubled that Trump is appealing to many.




- Josiah




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[Brighten04]

Sarah Palin has been a joke for a long time, I hope everyone knows that!

She was a joke right out of the gate. It amazes me that so many were infatuated with her.

 

[tango]

Do you think Sarah Palin will help him or harm his campaign? She isn't well loved by a lot of my Facebook friends

I think Sarah Palin represents a kiss of death to a candidate. The Republican faithful will love her but they'd probably vote Republican if the candidate was a turnip. The Democrat faithful will hate her but they wouldn't vote Republican even if Hillary ran under the Republican ticket. The moderate floating voters are the ones that will make a difference and I'm not sure Palin has much appeal there.

 

[tango]

I think that Trump is making the Repub establishment elites look bad -- and not the Repub voters. I also do not think he is pretending to be conservative and is planning to make Repub voters look silly. He has solid support from the conservative Repub base. He also has about 20% of Demos planning to vote for him (including about 20% of blacks). If those numbers hold up, Biden or Sanders will not be able to win the election.

I must admit I'm still not sure about that. When politicians of either persuasion come up with things that are little more than rabble rousing the party faithful shout their approval, but when the rabble rousing starts to get silly it can easily be used to suggest the party faithful are equally silly. In this day and age where the statement "I vote Republican/Democrat" is taken to mean "I agree with everything that every Republican/Democrat candidate has ever said or done, and disagree with everything that every Democrat/Republican candidate has ever said or done", agreeing with someone with a number of silly ideas is a good way to get labelled as silly yourself (and that applies to people hailing any candidate, it's just that few of them seem to condense things into soundbites in quite the way Trump does).

If Democrats would vote for him that would be surprising. If black voters find him appealing that's definitely a game changer. It does sometimes seem to me like the Republican party is rather too white and too male (and I write as a white man myself, even if not a US citizen).

And, to enhance the conservative philosophy he claims to have evolved into, he got one of the conservative icons -- Sarah Palin -- to fly in from Alaska today to endorse him and confirm his conservatism.

And that could be a game changer.

I'm not sure Palin's endorsement is going to do him any good, as I mentioned in my other post.

 

[psalms 91]

Trump will not win the nomination or else they might as well not have an election as the Dem will win

 

[Alithis]

I heard a woman interviewed say they want someone who practices their Christianity and she said Trump doesn't do that.

interesting choice of words . hmmmm - why the possible dissociation with the use of the word "thier " ? you not identify ?