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God's Word reveals The Godhead is made up of 3 Persons, God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit.
And these 3 are One. Some struggle with this, especially those stuck on Jewish traditions, because those of the Old Testament didn't yet understand about The Christ as "God with us", having rejected Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah (see Matthew 1:23 about "Immanuel" of Isaiah 7).
In the Old Testament also, there are many examples of "the angel of the LORD" appearing to God's people. In Genesis 16 He appeared to Hagar, and she called Him "Thou God" in Genesis 16:13, linking God as that "angel of the LORD".
The "angel of the LORD" is about Christ Jesus back in Old Testament times. That does NOT mean Jesus was, nor is, an 'angel', for He is not. The word angel simply means 'messenger'; it is not about a heavenly specie like a Cherubim or Seraphim which are heavenly created beings. But it does point specifically to the heavenly image state (see 1 Corinthians 15:49-50 where Apostle Paul taught about the difference between the "image of the earthy" and the "image of the heavenly".)
I won't explain about The Holy Spirit as one Person in The Godhead, that should be easy to understand by the simple explanations Jesus Himself gave in places like the Book of John.
Nor was Lord Jesus created, because Hebrews 1 is specific that The Father made all things through His Son Jesus Christ, and that Jesus is the "express image" of His Person (The Father). Even when Apostle Philip asked Lord Jesus, "shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us." Jesus replied to him, "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9).
In Isaiah 7:14, God gave a Sign about Lord Jesus, His name as "Immanuel", and that He would be born of a virgin. Matthew 1:23 points to that Scripture and defines His name "Immanuel" as "God with us' pointing directly to Christ Jesus.
In Hebrews 7, Apostle Paul talks of Old Testament Melchisedec who was without mother, without father, nor beginning or end of days, but made like unto the Son of God, abideth a priest continually. In Hebrews 7:13 Paul lets the 'cat out of the bag' and shows that he was pointing to Lord Jesus as the Melchisedec of the Old Testament all along...
Heb 7:13-14
13 For He of Whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
KJV
Melchizedek was the 'king of Salem', the word Salem meaning 'peace'. Our Lord Jesus has the title of 'Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9). Melchizedek met Abraham and blessed him, and offered Abraham "bread and wine". Now if you are a Christian, you ought to well know what the 'bread and wine' represent, i.e., Christ's body and His blood shed on the cross, sacraments of the New Covenant.
So what was Lord Jesus Christ as the Melchizedek of the Old Testament doing offering Abraham "bread and wine"? According to Apostle Paul in Romans 4 and Galatians 3, all those of Faith have become the "children of Abraham", and inherit with faithful Abraham. The Gospel was preached to Abraham, Apostle Paul said. God gave His Promise by Faith first to Abraham, and he believed and it was counted as righteousness. Thus Paul also says the Faith (on The Gospel of Jesus Christ) we have believed is the same Faith that Abraham had. Thus through Abraham The Gospel Promise was FIRST given. Not the law was first, but God's Promise by Faith is what Paul showed.
At the end of John 8, Jesus speaking to the unbelieving Pharisees, said that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and was glad. Those Pharisees then asked Jesus if He had lived back to the time of Abraham, because He wasn't yet even 50 years old. Jesus replied, "... Before Abraham was, I AM." (The 'I AM THAT I AM' is God's sacred name He gave to Moses.)
In Matthew 22, Lord Jesus asked the unbelieving Pharisees about The Christ, who's son was he. They were only willing to admit that he was "the Son of David"...
Matt 22:41-45
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 Saying, "What think ye of Christ? whose son is He?" They say unto him, "The Son of David."
43 He saith unto them, "How then doth David in spirit call Him Lord, saying,
44 'The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on My right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?'
45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?"
KJV
Jesus was asking them then why did David call Christ "my Lord", if Christ is David's son? Furthermore, why did The Father ("The LORD") say unto "my Lord" in David's quote, which contrasts what? That part show that The Father pointed to The Son as David's Lord too, meaning what? It means David was pointing both, The Father and The Son as his GOD.
In Revelation, Jesus uses the same titles The Father used in the prophets for Himself, like 'Alpha and Omega, the first and the last'. That is Jesus proclaiming Himself directly as God The Son in The Godhead,
In Isaiah 9, Christ as The Son has the titles of "The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
The Scripture evidences above are plenty proof that seals the fact that Lord Jesus Christ is GOD The Son, one Person in the Triune Godhead.
And these 3 are One. Some struggle with this, especially those stuck on Jewish traditions, because those of the Old Testament didn't yet understand about The Christ as "God with us", having rejected Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah (see Matthew 1:23 about "Immanuel" of Isaiah 7).
In the Old Testament also, there are many examples of "the angel of the LORD" appearing to God's people. In Genesis 16 He appeared to Hagar, and she called Him "Thou God" in Genesis 16:13, linking God as that "angel of the LORD".
The "angel of the LORD" is about Christ Jesus back in Old Testament times. That does NOT mean Jesus was, nor is, an 'angel', for He is not. The word angel simply means 'messenger'; it is not about a heavenly specie like a Cherubim or Seraphim which are heavenly created beings. But it does point specifically to the heavenly image state (see 1 Corinthians 15:49-50 where Apostle Paul taught about the difference between the "image of the earthy" and the "image of the heavenly".)
I won't explain about The Holy Spirit as one Person in The Godhead, that should be easy to understand by the simple explanations Jesus Himself gave in places like the Book of John.
Nor was Lord Jesus created, because Hebrews 1 is specific that The Father made all things through His Son Jesus Christ, and that Jesus is the "express image" of His Person (The Father). Even when Apostle Philip asked Lord Jesus, "shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us." Jesus replied to him, "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9).
In Isaiah 7:14, God gave a Sign about Lord Jesus, His name as "Immanuel", and that He would be born of a virgin. Matthew 1:23 points to that Scripture and defines His name "Immanuel" as "God with us' pointing directly to Christ Jesus.
In Hebrews 7, Apostle Paul talks of Old Testament Melchisedec who was without mother, without father, nor beginning or end of days, but made like unto the Son of God, abideth a priest continually. In Hebrews 7:13 Paul lets the 'cat out of the bag' and shows that he was pointing to Lord Jesus as the Melchisedec of the Old Testament all along...
Heb 7:13-14
13 For He of Whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
KJV
Melchizedek was the 'king of Salem', the word Salem meaning 'peace'. Our Lord Jesus has the title of 'Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9). Melchizedek met Abraham and blessed him, and offered Abraham "bread and wine". Now if you are a Christian, you ought to well know what the 'bread and wine' represent, i.e., Christ's body and His blood shed on the cross, sacraments of the New Covenant.
So what was Lord Jesus Christ as the Melchizedek of the Old Testament doing offering Abraham "bread and wine"? According to Apostle Paul in Romans 4 and Galatians 3, all those of Faith have become the "children of Abraham", and inherit with faithful Abraham. The Gospel was preached to Abraham, Apostle Paul said. God gave His Promise by Faith first to Abraham, and he believed and it was counted as righteousness. Thus Paul also says the Faith (on The Gospel of Jesus Christ) we have believed is the same Faith that Abraham had. Thus through Abraham The Gospel Promise was FIRST given. Not the law was first, but God's Promise by Faith is what Paul showed.
At the end of John 8, Jesus speaking to the unbelieving Pharisees, said that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and was glad. Those Pharisees then asked Jesus if He had lived back to the time of Abraham, because He wasn't yet even 50 years old. Jesus replied, "... Before Abraham was, I AM." (The 'I AM THAT I AM' is God's sacred name He gave to Moses.)
In Matthew 22, Lord Jesus asked the unbelieving Pharisees about The Christ, who's son was he. They were only willing to admit that he was "the Son of David"...
Matt 22:41-45
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 Saying, "What think ye of Christ? whose son is He?" They say unto him, "The Son of David."
43 He saith unto them, "How then doth David in spirit call Him Lord, saying,
44 'The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on My right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?'
45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?"
KJV
Jesus was asking them then why did David call Christ "my Lord", if Christ is David's son? Furthermore, why did The Father ("The LORD") say unto "my Lord" in David's quote, which contrasts what? That part show that The Father pointed to The Son as David's Lord too, meaning what? It means David was pointing both, The Father and The Son as his GOD.
In Revelation, Jesus uses the same titles The Father used in the prophets for Himself, like 'Alpha and Omega, the first and the last'. That is Jesus proclaiming Himself directly as God The Son in The Godhead,
In Isaiah 9, Christ as The Son has the titles of "The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
The Scripture evidences above are plenty proof that seals the fact that Lord Jesus Christ is GOD The Son, one Person in the Triune Godhead.
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