The ghastly morals evident in creation.

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Consider insects and spiders and it will not take long before you encounter immorality (from a human perspective) on a monumental scale. Children that eat their dead mother. Insects that dress themselves in the dead bodies of their prey, sex on a frighteningly massive scale, murder in the "bed room". Child exploitation. Slavery. War. Cruelty. Is creation a reflection of a beneficent creator?

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Atrocious as it is I don't believe that's how God created it. I think that's evident in the way that God has planned heaven to be without the ghastly morals that are not evidence of creation but rather evidence of the fall. jmho
 

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Atrocious as it is I don't believe that's how God created it. I think that's evident in the way that God has planned heaven to be without the ghastly morals that are not evidence of creation but rather evidence of the fall. jmho

You may be right, the Church appears to teach that the fall brought much that is corrupting into an otherwise good creation. Yet it is instructive to face the challenges in creation that test the comfortable notions that are taken for grated in our faith and examine why we believe what we believe
 

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You may be right, the Church appears to teach that the fall brought much that is corrupting into an otherwise good creation. Yet it is instructive to face the challenges in creation that test the comfortable notions that are taken for grated in our faith and examine why we believe what we believe
Who knows.. the bible does teach to study nature to learn since Jesus' parables were from nature
 
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