Right or wrong

[Jazzy]

You might have heard somebody say, “I don’t believe there’s such a thing as right or wrong.” Or maybe you’ve heard a professor say, “There are no absolutes.” Whenever I hear that I want to say, “Are you absolutely sure?” You have to ask yourself, “Is this statement even logical? Is there any right or wrong?” Because when people say, “There is no right or wrong, or it’s wrong for you to impose your morals on me,” think about it. When they tell you that, they are imposing their morals on you.

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Question: Is there any real right or wrong? (Please explain your answer)

 

[1689Dave]

You might have heard somebody say, “I don’t believe there’s such a thing as right or wrong.” Or maybe you’ve heard a professor say, “There are no absolutes.” Whenever I hear that I want to say, “Are you absolutely sure?” You have to ask yourself, “Is this statement even logical? Is there any right or wrong?” Because when people say, “There is no right or wrong, or it’s wrong for you to impose your morals on me,” think about it. When they tell you that, they are imposing their morals on you.

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Question: Is there any real right or wrong? (Please explain your answer)

Everyone knows how they would like to be treated. Sin wells up when you do not treat others at the same level. That's why sin permeates the world.. Unequal amounts make money powerful. If all shared the wealth equally, money would become worthless.

 

[tango]

The trouble with questions like this is that they cross all sorts of lines and blur boundaries.

The person who says there is no absolute right and wrong is inviting some kind of personal attack. You could punch them in the face - they have no right to complain because they just said there is no absolute wrong and in complaining about your actions they are imposing their moral values on you. I doubt they'd see it that way though.

In other areas there are questions over who gets to impose their values on others, and those are areas where people might do well to mind their own business. If someone doesn't follow a faith they are unlikely to be interested in the moral values associated with that faith. So the fact that Christians may regard homosexual or adulterous acts to be sinful means nothing to the non-Christian, just as the fact that Muslims may regard eating pork and drinking alcohol to be sinful means nothing to non-Muslims.

The key question in many ways comes down to the consent of the parties involved and who outside of the parties involved gets any say. Hence punching someone in the face is a problem because they presumably didn't consent to being punched, while something like homosexuality is the kind of area where minding one's own business is a good idea assuming all parties involved are consenting.

 

[Josiah]

You might have heard somebody say, “I don’t believe there’s such a thing as right or wrong.” Or maybe you’ve heard a professor say, “There are no absolutes.” Whenever I hear that I want to say, “Are you absolutely sure?” You have to ask yourself, “Is this statement even logical? Is there any right or wrong?” Because when people say, “There is no right or wrong, or it’s wrong for you to impose your morals on me,” think about it. When they tell you that, they are imposing their morals on you.

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Question: Is there any real right or wrong? (Please explain your answer)

In liberalism, wrong is anything they don't agree with or might hurt someone's feelings. And they are PASSIONATELY, EXTEMELEY, even VIOLENTLY against that. They have ZERO tolerance for wrong and bad. As many a college prof of mine revealed.


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[tango]

In liberalism, wrong is anything they don't agree with or might hurt someone's feelings. And they are PASSIONATELY, EXTEMELEY, even VIOLENTLY against that. They have ZERO tolerance for wrong and bad. As many a college prof of mine revealed.


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"Might hurt someone's feelings" only applies if the person with hurt feelings is suitably progressive. If a conservative suffers hurt feelings they are expected to suck it up. If a conservative suffers the total loss of everything in their life that's an acceptable price to pay. If a liberal suffers hurt feelings that is objectively wrong.

 

[tango]

Of course if there is no objective right or wrong then all the assorted -isms and -phobias become perfectly acceptable. KKK-style lynchings are acceptable. Hitler's extermination of Jews was acceptable. China's persecution of the Uighur Muslims is acceptable. Russia's invasion of Ukraine was acceptable. Driving the native people out of their tribal lands was acceptable. Beating someone up for being transgender is acceptable.

Hey, who are we to impose our limited view of right and wrong onto any of the people in these examples?

Simply put, the idea that there is no absolute right and wrong is absurd. We might disagree on what it looks like but we have to accept that some things are objectively wrong.

 

[Jason76]

Jesus spoke of the "law of love" coming before the law. I mean, if you broke a stranger's window to save a baby, then did you sin? Well, regarding something deeper, if you were hiding people, say from the Nazis or something, are you a sinner?