Reminder - Nicene Creed belief in order to post in Christian Theology

[Lamb]

Staff would like to remind members that this section called Christian Theology has a specific rule that only those who adhere to the Nicene Creed should be posting here. If you do not believe in the Trinity or follow the Nicene Creed you should be posting in the World Religion and Speculative Theology forum. Thank you.

 

[Michael]

That's fine friend.
You can move my "GOAL" thread to another section of this site if you so choose. Won't change the fact that what I've presented is Truth. But I'm here to please God, not man. I'm only a "watchman on the wall", "a voice crying in the wilderness." A one whom God has commissioned to share the Light, to "plant" and to "water" and let "God bring the increase." And He will. My absolute faith and trust is in Him. He is refining His remnant.

And it is Him I must follow, not any denomination of man.
Again, I find myself in good company with the Prophets and Apostles who were shunned and persecuted by the religious folk.

God's wisdom and understanding to all,
Michael, a servant of the Most High.

:ange06:

 

[Lamb]

That's fine friend.
You can move my "GOAL" thread to another section of this site if you so choose. Won't change the fact that what I've presented is Truth. But I'm here to please God, not man. I'm only a "watchman on the wall", "a voice crying in the wilderness." A one whom God has commissioned to share the Light, to "plant" and to "water" and let "God bring the increase." And He will. My absolute faith and trust is in Him. He is refining His remnant.

And it is Him I must follow, not any denomination of man.
Again, I find myself in good company with the Prophets and Apostles who were shunned and persecuted by the religious folk.

God's wisdom and understanding to all,
Michael, a servant of the Most High.

:ange06:

You don't believe in the Trinity? I was unaware.

 

[Michael]

You don't believe in the Trinity? I was unaware.

I believe what the Scripture declares. :bible: :ange06:

 

[Lamb]

I believe what the Scripture declares. :bible: :ange06:

I believe what Scripture declares too and that's the Trinity.

Do you believe in the Trinity? Please respond.

 

[Michael]

I believe what Scripture declares too and that's the Trinity.

Do you believe in the Trinity? Please respond.

I responded in "The GOAL" thread on your question, but will share here as well, and I encourage the leaders of this site to read my response as well. I would love to hear their thoughts (not a denominational stance, but their own thoughts) on even the few passages I mention here -


A couple of the passages I often mention when discussing any denominations "Statement of Faith" are Hebrews 5:5-11, John 20:17, and Acts 2:36, for they stand in opposition to much of the religious traditions we have constructed over the centuries, especially the understanding of who Jesus is, was, became, and will be in Eternity.

If one can prove that these following passages don't mean what they say, then I will stand to be corrected.

"So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.”
6 As He also says in another place:
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek”;
7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, 10 called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,” 11 of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing." - Heb 5:5-11

"Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’ ” - John 20:17 (Eph 1:17, Rom 15:6, 1Cor 15:20-28 and Rev 3:12, among literally hundreds of other verses, confirm Jesus' declaration concerning His relationship to God.)

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” - Acts 2:36

Amen

"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of Truth." - 2Tim 2:15


As I've stated before, I didn't come here to attack anyone's beliefs. I'm here to share and encourage the saints to press in, to be diligent in our walk with Lord and lay hold of what Christ has laid hold of us for. For as the entire New Testament writers stressed, we're not there yet. All the promises of Rev 2 & 3, at least according to Jesus, are to "those who overcome" and "endure til the end."

God's Wisdom and Understanding to all.

 

[Lamb]

Could you please respond with a Yes or No? Do you believe in the Trinity?

 

[Michael]

Could you please respond with a Yes or No? Do you believe in the Trinity?

Depends on your definition. For the usual modern way it is presented, I do not agree with.

That being said, for I often am falsely accused of saying that Jesus is not Divine by those who are ignorant of my teaching... Jesus IS my Lord and Savior. He is the Name above all names. The One who is seated at the right hand of God. He is the only Way to the Father. The Firstborn from the dead. He is the Head of the Church. And He is the One who desires that the Elect who overcome become One with Him as He is One with the Father.

Any that refute this Truth from the Word have not known Him, or His Father.

Peace.

 

[Lamb]

Depends on your definition. For the usual modern way it is presented, I do not agree with.

That being said, for I often am falsely accused of saying that Jesus is not Divine by those who are ignorant of my teaching... Jesus IS my Lord and Savior. He is the Name above all names. The One who is seated at the right hand of God. He is the only Way to the Father. The Firstborn from the dead. He is the Head of the Church. And He is the One who desires that the Elect who overcome become One with Him as He is One with the Father.

Any that refute this Truth from the Word have not known Him, or His Father.

Peace.

I won't decipher what you wrote which is why I ask outright for a yes or no. You state that you disagree with the "usual modern way it is presented" so I'm assuming that means you do not believe in the Trinity or adhere to the Nicene Creed and because of this I ask that you do not post in the Christian Theology section of the forum per the owner's rules for that particular area. That rule has been in place for as long as I can remember and was actually at the suggestion of an Atheist who used to post here in case anyone thinks it's an elitist rule.

I will be moving all your threads that are in that area to the World Religion & Speculative Theology forum.

 

[Michael]

I won't decipher what you wrote which is why I ask outright for a yes or no. You state that you disagree with the "usual modern way it is presented" so I'm assuming that means you do not believe in the Trinity or adhere to the Nicene Creed and because of this I ask that you do not post in the Christian Theology section of the forum per the owner's rules for that particular area. That rule has been in place for as long as I can remember and was actually at the suggestion of an Atheist who used to post here in case anyone thinks it's an elitist rule.

I will be moving all your threads that are in that area to the World Religion & Speculative Theology forum.

Hmmm... Curious... are you the final authority on this?

I would love to hear from Romanos or others who are in charge of this site. For there are many who have gleaned from what I've shared from the Scripture.

Again, I am honored to be among the Prophets & Apostles, and Jesus, Himself, who were attacked by the religious community.

“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also." - John 15:18-20

Peace & Blessings to all who walk with Jesus,
Michael

 

[Lamb]

Hmmm... Curious... are you the final authority on this?

I would love to hear from Romanos or others who are in charge of this site. For there are many who have gleaned from what I've shared from the Scripture.

Again, I am honored to be among the Prophets & Apostles, and Jesus, Himself, who were attacked by the religious community.

“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also." - John 15:18-20

Peace & Blessings to all who walk with Jesus,
Michael

I'm really not seeing much respect from you, Michael and here is why... I've asked you repeatedly for a Yes or No answer and I've gotten roundabout responses instead. I used one of your responses that indicated you didn't agree with the Trinity beliefs as they are written (according to you by the "usual modern way it is presented"). Now is that correct? Do you believe in the Trinity or not? Do you agree with the Nicene Creed or not?

The final answer is that Romanos, who is the owner, has stated that only those who believe in the Trinity and adhere to the Nicene Creed are allowed to post in the Christian Theology section of this site. That's the way it's been for as long as I can remember so it's not something new.

NO one on staff is attacking you so stop playing the victim.

 

[Michael]

I'm really not seeing much respect from you, Michael and here is why... I've asked you repeatedly for a Yes or No answer and I've gotten roundabout responses instead. I used one of your responses that indicated you didn't agree with the Trinity beliefs as they are written (according to you by the "usual modern way it is presented"). Now is that correct? Do you believe in the Trinity or not? Do you agree with the Nicene Creed or not?

The final answer is that Romanos, who is the owner, has stated that only those who believe in the Trinity and adhere to the Nicene Creed are allowed to post in the Christian Theology section of this site. That's the way it's been for as long as I can remember so it's not something new.

NO one on staff is attacking you so stop playing the victim.

Truth is... it isn't a simple question. For one can answer with carnal thinking or spiritual understanding. And most often the two do not meet. (see 1Cor 2:13-15)

I know that Romanos isn't around on here as much these days, but I'm sure he and others in charge here have seen at least some of what I've presented, and have allowed me to post. Especially since ALL that I've shared is confirmed by a great bulk of the canon of Scripture.

If the Creed were in the Scripture, I would adhere to it. But it's not. And if we can present literally hundreds of passages of Scripture to debate a point, wouldn't that at least warrant some discussion, rather than simply labeling me and marking everything I've shared as "speculative"?
And yes, I've been victim of that in other forums, which led to banning, all because one or two individuals could not accept the Scripture I presented for what it says. And that is sad. I do not expect others to agree with me, because it's not about me at all, but only that we study the Word together and enter into mature discussion concerning the Word and encourage each other to press in to know the Lord and His plan and purpose for their life. For none of us are there yet. None have "arrived" or "endured til the end."

Several times, I've offered anyone to show me where I am wrong in my essay's or videos, using only the Bible to counter the multitude of passages of Scripture I quote; but no one has responded. My guess is, if attempted, one would find that they cannot dismiss or ignore what the Word of God declares.

I'll leave off for now. There is too much to say, concerning what the Lord is doing even through all this here, and now is not the time. But my position has been established even further through our "discussion" and I've gained more info for my book; and perhaps that is God's main purpose in this, as He is refining me through the fire. Praise His Name!

Peace & Blessings, Wisdom & Understanding to all who walk with Jesus.
Michael

 

[zecryphon_nomdiv]

The Nicene Creed is taken from the Scriptures. Please click on the link to be taken to the list.

https://steadfastlutherans.org/2013/06/the-nicene-creed/

 

[RichWh1]

Could you please respond with a Yes or No? Do you believe in the Trinity?

Michael does not believe in the tri-Unity of God.

 

[Michael]

The Nicene Creed is taken from the Scriptures. Please click on the link to be taken to the list.

https://steadfastlutherans.org/2013/06/the-nicene-creed/

All I teach is taken directly from the Scripture. :ange06:

 

[zecryphon_nomdiv]

All I teach is taken directly from the Scripture. :ange06:

Then you should have no problem confessing The Nicene Creed.

 

[Lamb]

[MENTION=1032]Michael[/MENTION], this wasn't up for discussion beyond answering Yes or No. This wasn't for you to play the Woe is me, everyone is out to get me and ban me victim mentality.

Romanos has set a boundary and wishes for it to be respected. You have disrespected MY authority as Admin here on the site by not responding to me with a direct answer and to repeatedly do this mind game thing that you do. I don't do mind games like that.

If you're looking to talk to someone higher than me to get him to change the site rules THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

Thread is closed. You are free to post in the World Religion & Speculative Theology forum and that's the final answer...by my authority.

 

[Romanos]

Even though I am the Site Owner, Lämmchen as an Administrator has Administrative authority. In terms of final authority and all site decisions, the final decision rests with me as the Owner. And as such as Lämmchen has said, it is at my decision that only those who believe in the Holy Trinity and affirm to the fullness of the Nicene Creed will be allowed to post in the Christian Theology section. It is a all or nothing situation, even non acceptance of one line of the Nicene Creed is not permitted to post in the Christian Theology forum.

No attacks are being made on anyone. The Nicene Creed for centuries has been a way for the Church to determine who indeed identified as a Christian, and the obvious reason of it not being in Scripture is that the Church did not draft it and utilize it until the Councils were convened by the Church. Acceptance of the full Nicene Creed and the Holy Trinity is required to be posting in the Christian Theology forum, in which the final authority to make that decision would come from me.

Romanos
Executive Administrator