Preaching about Blessings alone

[Jason]

In India i have seen many Pastors and man of God preach about receiving blessings.

Like are you sick, are you tired, get suicide thoughts there is one God who can solve this all. Share your offerings and God will surely bless you. This the most common things we hear here.

But there are so many things God and other disciples have spoken. Like love one another, the path will be so difficult, watch and pray etc..which is not conveyed in any meetings.

It should be balanced right?

 

[OneIsTheWord]

In India i have seen many Pastors and man of God preach about receiving blessings.

Like are you sick, are you tired, get suicide thoughts there is one God who can solve this all. Share your offerings and God will surely bless you. This the most common things we hear here.

But there are so many things God and other disciples have spoken. Like love one another, the path will be so difficult, watch and pray etc..which is not conveyed in any meetings.

It should be balanced right?

Yes I do agree
question
but what do you with men that are ignorant

 

[Lamb]

In India i have seen many Pastors and man of God preach about receiving blessings.

Like are you sick, are you tired, get suicide thoughts there is one God who can solve this all. Share your offerings and God will surely bless you. This the most common things we hear here.

But there are so many things God and other disciples have spoken. Like love one another, the path will be so difficult, watch and pray etc..which is not conveyed in any meetings.

It should be balanced right?

Share their offerings and God will bless? As in give us money first before God will do something for you? That's not biblical.

 

[Stravinsk]

Share their offerings and God will bless? As in give us money first before God will do something for you? That's not biblical.

Offerings given that go to help the poor are biblical. If memory serves, this was the purpose of the tithe in the Old Testament.

On the other hand, the priest class using the generosity of the people to enrich themselves is looked on with contempt. Bel and the Dragon comes to mind. As does the Catholic Church. As well as plenty of Protestant churches/preachers too.

 

[Lamb]

Offerings given that go to help the poor are biblical. If memory serves, this was the purpose of the tithe in the Old Testament.

On the other hand, the priest class using the generosity of the people to enrich themselves is looked on with contempt. Bel and the Dragon comes to mind. As does the Catholic Church. As well as plenty of Protestant churches/preachers too.

Yes, offerings to the poor are biblical. But to say that God is a vending machine type of God who will bless us if we do ___ fill in the blank___ first? God blesses us according to His will. Not ours.

 

[Jason]

I have seen so many new preachers who come out and say you give to our ministry and God will bless you.

If the money is used for poor and people who are in need then fine, but here they use the money to put disco lights, come in costly cars etc..

This has brought a poor image on Christianity in India i don't know how it is in other countries.

 

[Lamb]

I have seen so many new preachers who come out and say you give to our ministry and God will bless you.

If the money is used for poor and people who are in need then fine, but here they use the money to put disco lights, come in costly cars etc..

This has brought a poor image on Christianity in India i don't know how it is in other countries.

That type of stuff irks me to no end! They're taking advantage of their positions as shepherds!

 

[Stravinsk]

Unfortunately (or tellingly), Saul/Paul allows for this kind of thing in 1 Corinthians 9, 1 Timothy 5:17-18, and by inference in 2 Corinthians 11:8.

Once the door is opened, there is no limit placed. A pastor/pope/deacon etc may get a humble wage to feed/cloth and house him, and he may grow "his flock" to the point where things like expensive buildings, furniture, statues, organs and yes perhaps even disco lights are "needed" to keep them happy. A large enough income could even excuse a few luxury cars/personal jets.

Interestingly, there is a passage in the Didache where if a prophet asks for money(for his services as a prophet), he is automatically discredited as a prophet. A likely reason this book was left out of the canon of Scripture.

 

[eddif]

Unfortunately (or tellingly), Saul/Paul allows for this kind of thing in 1 Corinthians 9, 1 Timothy 5:17-18, and by inference in 2 Corinthians 11:8.

Once the door is opened, there is no limit placed. A pastor/pope/deacon etc may get a humble wage to feed/cloth and house him, and he may grow "his flock" to the point where things like expensive buildings, furniture, statues, organs and yes perhaps even disco lights are "needed" to keep them happy. A large enough income could even excuse a few luxury cars/personal jets.

Interestingly, there is a passage in the Didache where if a prophet asks for money(for his services as a prophet), he is automatically discredited as a prophet. A likely reason this book was left out of the canon of Scripture.

Ah yes the oxen thread:
I Timothy 5:17
17. Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.
18. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

The concept of paying a good preacher goes back to OT law. Even animals should eat if they work hard.
Your I Corinthians 9 scripture says it was not for the oxen he was concerned, but for us. Then says a plowman should plow in hope oh the harvest.
Animals eat
Plowmen eat
Preachers eat

Pay for good work is in the Old Testament. But India may not have the concept in their heritage.
Study and comparison of OT scriptures might help (as the Timothy passage points out)

The teaching for blessing is a gentile side concept gone astray

eddif

 

[Stravinsk]

Ah yes the oxen thread:
I Timothy 5:17
17. Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.
18. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

The concept of paying a good preacher goes back to OT law. Even animals should eat if they work hard.
Your I Corinthians 9 scripture says it was not for the oxen he was concerned, but for us. Then says a plowman should plow in hope oh the harvest.
Animals eat
Plowmen eat
Preachers eat

Pay for good work is in the Old Testament. But India may not have the concept in their heritage.
Study and comparison of OT scriptures might help (as the Timothy passage points out)

The teaching for blessing is a gentile side concept gone astray

eddif

I quoted Saul/Paul as a criticism, because his teachings here allow for the exact kind of thing the Original Poster was lamenting. A criticism of Saul/Paul and his writings.

Btw, God does care for oxen, contrary to Paul's misuse of the scripture, and the purpose of that law was simple kindness to a working animal that lives on grass. Don't muzzle it while it works for you. Nothing super spiritual or hidden meanings as Paul's quote of it alludes to.

Also, I would be interested to know where you are finding the "paying a preacher" concept in the Old Testament. By Christ's testimony, many (most?) are killed by the people for telling truths the people do not want to hear. By contrast, modern preachers sooth their flocks with lies and flattery and get paid for it.

 

[eddif]

I quoted Saul/Paul as a criticism, because his teachings here allow for the exact kind of thing the Original Poster was lamenting. A criticism of Saul/Paul and his writings.

Btw, God does care for oxen, contrary to Paul's misuse of the scripture, and the purpose of that law was simple kindness to a working animal that lives on grass. Don't muzzle it while it works for you. Nothing super spiritual or hidden meanings as Paul's quote of it alludes to.

Also, I would be interested to know where you are finding the "paying a preacher" concept in the Old Testament. By Christ's testimony, many (most?) are killed by the people for telling truths the people do not want to hear. By contrast, modern preachers sooth their flocks with lies and flattery and get paid for it.

Ok
Here to jointly learn.
Under the Old Testament Law:
The priest did not own land.
Their income came out of tithes and offerings of the tribes land allotments.

eddif