non-violent felons and firearms

[dogs4thewin]

Assuming that a person convicted of a NON-violent felony has completed his or her ENTIRE sentence incarceration, probation, parole fines and anything else/ should they have their right to own firearms restored?

 

[psalms 91]

The rights of nonviolent felons should be restored in whole and those convicted of violent offenses only accordingly such as voting

 

[Krissy Cakes]

Depends on what the crimes is I guess. So I can't answer this question.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Depends on what the crimes is I guess. So I can't answer this question.

That was why I mentioned non-violent as a qualifer.

 

[MarkFL]

The rights of nonviolent felons should be restored in whole and those convicted of violent offenses only accordingly such as voting

I agree completely.

 

[dogs4thewin]

What if someone is convicted of a crime concerning voting like voter freud?

 

[MarkFL]

What if someone is convicted of a crime concerning voting like voter fraud?

Once the debt to society has been paid, I would allow those folks to vote again...in certain heinous crimes, where studies have shown the recidivism rate is high, I agree that certain restrictions be held for the remainder of the offender's life.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Once the debt to society has been paid, I would allow those folks to vote again...in certain heinous crimes, where studies have shown the recidivism rate is high, I agree that certain restrictions be held for the remainder of the offender's life.

Well, is it reasonable to suggest that maybe one reason the reoffending rate is so high is because people will not give them a chance on the outside?

 

[psalms 91]

Well, is it reasonable to suggest that maybe one reason the reoffending rate is so high is because people will not give them a chance on the outside?

Exactly, jobs are hard to get affordable housing is denied them and of course neighbors who do not want them there

 

[dogs4thewin]

Exactly, jobs are hard to get affordable housing is denied them and of course neighbors who do not want them there

It is funny how we want them to make an honest living, but we will not give them a shot. You can either risks getting burned or KNOW you will be paying for them through your taxes after they break the law and are incarcerated again.

 

[psalms 91]

It is funny how we want them to make an honest living, but we will not give them a shot. You can either risks getting burned or KNOW you will be paying for them through your taxes after they break the law and are incarcerated again.

Sad part is that 95 per cent do get out and most if not all of you have neighbors who have been in the system for one reason or another. I think it would be nice if they had a level playing field upon release but I know that that will not happen. There are programs out there that help these people but unfortunately they are few and far between

 

[dogs4thewin]

Sad part is that 95 per cent do get out and most if not all of you have neighbors who have been in the system for one reason or another. I think it would be nice if they had a level playing field upon release but I know that that will not happen. There are programs out there that help these people but unfortunately they are few and far between

thank you
. I like Pit bulls and parolees. Tia runs a private program like that.

 

[psalms 91]

thank you
. I like Pit bulls and parolees. Tia runs a private program like that.

Glad to hear that, they need a lot more of those. Denying people employment and housing is a sure fire way togaurantee that they will repeat as offenders

 

[dogs4thewin]

Glad to hear that, they need a lot more of those. Denying people employment and housing is a sure fire way to gaurantee that they will repeat as offenders

because they know once they ARE in custody it is on the county/state to provide for them. If the county/state fails to do so the inmate has the right to sue and WIN after the 8th amendment. Just because they are inmates does not mean they lose all their rights.

 

[psalms 91]

exactly

 

[dogs4thewin]

Now it IS debatable just what the county/state should be required to provide.

 

[psalms 91]

Just go to the poorer counties and you will see what they provide and the treatment given and I would assume that this is the minimum

 

[dogs4thewin]

Just go to the poorer counties and you will see what they provide and the treatment given and I would assume that this is the minimum

The minimum may even vary by state. The federal government setting the MINIMUM and states being permitted to go better

 

[psalms 91]

Fortunately most places recognize that treatment has to go with incarceration and thta in the end it is cost effective. For instance mental health treatment or drug and alcohol treatment, also GED training, these can all reduce recidism

 

[dogs4thewin]

Fortunately most places recognize that treatment has to go with incarceration and thta in the end it is cost effective. For instance mental health treatment or drug and alcohol treatment, also GED training, these can all reduce recidism

yes, and they do, but they require two things to work first the inmate has to WANT to change, but also people on the outside MUST be willing to give them a chance or they are likely to turn back to crime just to get their basic needs met.