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Yep, it's gotten to the point where I think I need a gun here at the house if this violence within the US continues. Even though I live in the country and feel relatively safe, it takes the police longer to reach us as opposed to where I used to live and I don't trust my neighbors to protect me like my previous neighbors in the burbs.

So what kind of gun is best for a first time buyer? There is a shooting range 20 minutes from home that's probably open.
 

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Yep, it's gotten to the point where I think I need a gun here at the house if this violence within the US continues. Even though I live in the country and feel relatively safe, it takes the police longer to reach us as opposed to where I used to live and I don't trust my neighbors to protect me like my previous neighbors in the burbs.

So what kind of gun is best for a first time buyer? There is a shooting range 20 minutes from home that's probably open.

My thoughts, based on limited experience so take it for what it's worth.

You'll need to consider the physical size of the gun given your size how you would plan to carry it. If you want to carry it in a small handbag you'll need a small gun. If you have small hands you'll want a small gun. I have quite big hands and many of the "compact" options feel like toys so I prefer something a bit meatier. If you're planning on concealed carry check the laws regarding permits where you live and figure what size firearm you can carry concealed on your body. Here you'll also need to consider the way you routinely dress - if you typically wear tight-fitting clothes you'll struggle with concealed carry but if you often wear flowing or loose-fitting things you can carry something larger.

Consider the caliber of ammunition you'll want to use, thinking about recoil and how well you'll deal with recoil. Obviously a .45ACP will kick a lot harder than a .22 but will also do more damage when it arrives. Then there's the cost of ammunition to consider - larger caliber ammunition is more expensive.

A semiautomatic handgun will hold more rounds than a revolver. Depending on the caliber and the overall size of the gun you could be talking anything from 5-6 rounds to 17 rounds in the magazine.

For home defense you may want to consider a pump action shotgun or a semiautomatic rifle. In many ways rifles are better for home defense than handguns simply because they have more points of contact with the body and are therefore easier to hold steady. If you're strong enough, and your rifle is robust enough, it can also be used as a club if you run out of ammo and don't have time to reload it.

Where home defense is concerned you'll want to give some thought to where a bullet goes if you do ever have to fire at someone or something. Consider where you can take a stand in your house, thinking about being able to hold an area without destroying vital elements if you do have to use force - for example, you don't want to find that shooting an intruder means that any bullets that miss (or that pass through the intruder) end up trashing your oil tanks or your furnace or something. Depending on who lives in your house with you, you'll want to make sure everybody is gathered together so your family aren't harmed by stray bullets, or mistaken for intruders.

Your best bet is probably to go and talk to a local gun shop, handle a few guns and see what feels comfortable for you. If your local range has an option to try guns so you can get a feel for how they actually fire, recoil etc that would be even better.

Unless you really have no option, don't bother with the places that have trigger locks in everything and refuse to remove them. It's really hard to get a feel for the gun if you can't put your finger on the trigger.

Of course you'll also want to consider the price. If you're talking something that you're not expecting to ever actually use but just want a sense of security, you won't want to spend $1000+ on a top-end firearm.
 

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Yep, it's gotten to the point where I think I need a gun here at the house if this violence within the US continues. Even though I live in the country and feel relatively safe, it takes the police longer to reach us as opposed to where I used to live and I don't trust my neighbors to protect me like my previous neighbors in the burbs.

So what kind of gun is best for a first time buyer? There is a shooting range 20 minutes from home that's probably open.
I would absolutely visit the gun range and ask them. They'll be the experts on such things.
 

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Lammchen, I'm sorry you feel you need a gun. I couldn't help you. I choose to not have a gun even though I live in a first rung suburb of a city that has been racked by violence this week. My neighborhood has been quiet and neighbors are watching out for neighbors.
Be safe, be well.
 

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Lammchen, I'm sorry you feel you need a gun. I couldn't help you. I choose to not have a gun even though I live in a first rung suburb of a city that has been racked by violence this week. My neighborhood has been quiet and neighbors are watching out for neighbors.
Be safe, be well.

Just to follow up on this, one thing to consider is what you'd do with your gun if your home were invaded.

A friend of mine (who is opposed to private ownership of guns) once asked me if I would actually shoot someone who threatened me. The brutal answer is that I don't know, and I told my friend I hoped I never found out.

I've never killed anything bigger than a rabbit. I gather from others who have been there that killing another person, however justified, changes you. Personally I hope to never experience that change. For myself I'd rather have the freedom to use deadly force to protect my family and myself but understand the decision some would take that they'd rather not risk even going there, even if the cost to themselves is very high.
 

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In a large number of cases a homeowner confronting an intruder with a gun ends up being disarmed and sometimes killed by the intruder and one more deadly weapon goes into the criminal arsenal. If you want to kill someone a gun is very convenient and if you are far enough back you don't even need to worry about blood spatter
 

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It's certainly not good to get too close to someone. It makes it harder to aim and a guy with a knife can beat a guy with a gun if the distance is less than maybe 15 feet.
 

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I would go with a 9mm semi. They are not very large and will get the job done. I agree visit a range and perhaps they would let you try a few out to see what feels good to you.
 

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For you @Lämmchen I would go with a tactical shot gun for home protection. About a 20 gauge (20 bore) would be good. Usually they are 4+1 (5 shots) you get semiauto or pump there are several flavors. That's enough shots to satisfy most home conflicts. A short barrel, probably 20" so you don't have to lower it going through tight places and hallways. It's got less of a kick than a 12 gauge but the noise it makes will let any intruder think twice about coming closer. You can shoot "from the hip" you don't have to aim, depending on the shell, it will spread out and still hit something. And you don't have to worry about where the bullet will go if you miss and it travels through a wall or window. There is also less of a chance that you will shoot yourself. It also is not worth stealing and sold on the illegal market, it's not worth the trouble, it's more of a riot gun. It's also a great shotgun to learn on. And it will take care of vermin too. The draw back to a pistol, unless you have a gun case, you will have to lean it up in the corner of your bedroom or stow it under the bed it won't fit in your night-stand.

If you really want a handgun, then get the Beretta 92 it's a 9mm and it's easy to use. I believe it's used by the US military and border patrol. I love mine. It will hold 15 shots in the magazine and you can release the magazine without letting go of the gun and reload with another magazine very quickly. And if you are fast enough, with practice... you can shoot 30 bullets in about 15-20 seconds.

Talk to a local expert.
 
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Thanks everyone. I haven't made up my mind but I've been thinking about it since the riots started. I always have escape plans in my head as well as what I can use as a weapon within the house which is why it's important to keep things in the same spot every time after use. My phone is near me at night and I'm a light sleeper so I would hear any break ins. If I can hear cows mooing off on the farms I can hear someone trying to get into my house ;)

As far as killing that's never my plan. If I shot someone I'd be the one to take care of the wound and provide comfort 😎
 

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I really don't feel comfortable with killing someone but often remember what a former karate instructor said. The best thing is not to fight at all but if you have to fight you need to take your opponent down fast and hard enough that they don't get back up in a hurry. Given the choice I think I'd rather spend years wondering whether I could have neutralised an intruder with less force, than spend years wondering whether I could have done more to protect that person I cared for so much.

One advantage of something like a pump action shotgun is that the action of racking it makes a very distinctive sound. Chances are if an intruder hears that they know exactly what they are going to face, and know that it's not going to be pretty if you end up pointing it their way.
 

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One advantage of something like a pump action shotgun is that the action of racking it makes a very distinctive sound. Chances are if an intruder hears that they know exactly what they are going to face, and know that it's not going to be pretty if you end up pointing it their way.
I've always loved that sound in movies! You know something exciting is about to happen. o_O
 

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Personally I would go with something small like a .22 handgun..that's easy to use...that was the first gun I ever shot.

And please oh please make sure you learn how to use it and be safe of course....:)
 

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Personally I would go with something small like a .22 handgun..that's easy to use...that was the first gun I ever shot.

And please oh please make sure you learn how to use it and be safe of course....:)

We have an indoor shooting range in the next town over and someone said there is an outdoor range right here in town. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would be willing to help train me :D
 

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Personally I would go with something small like a .22 handgun..that's easy to use...that was the first gun I ever shot.

And please oh please make sure you learn how to use it and be safe of course....:)

The trouble with a .22 handgun is whether it has enough stopping power to deal with someone who might be pumped on adrenaline or high on something less natural. If the intention is self-defense a gun that won't stop an intruder isn't much use.
 
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