Love Trials

[NetChaplain]

“I will allure her and bring her into the wilderness and speak tenderly unto her” (Hosea 2:14).


“As we begin to grow, we are governed; as we begin to mature, we are allured.” -MJS


“By trial our Father reveals we can suffer His will as well as do it. By trial He weans us from the world, draws us to His Son, drives us to the Word and to prayer and shows us our hearts and makes us humble. We are to learn to be patient in the days of darkness. Our trials are not meant to do us harm, but good. Our Father chastens us ‘for our profit, that we may become partakers of His holiness’ (Heb 12:10).” –J C R

“The great teaching of the wilderness is dependence upon the Father. The really heavenly man must be in a scene like this the most dependent man; and whenever anyone learns his heavenly calling truly and walks according to it conscientiously, he ever finds that new circumstances or trials occur, to keep him dependent; so that the truly heavenly man is the best wilderness man.

“If our affections are to the glorified Lord Jesus, they will make this world a wilderness to us but if our affections do not make it a wilderness His government will. The Father love us too well to allow our hearts to nestle here; and He makes us conscious that it is a wilderness that He may have opportunity in our loneliness and our sorrow to speak to our heart. The Voice that could not be heard in the din and bustle and amid the laughter of the city can be heard in the silence and solitude of the wilderness.” –C A C


“Why has the Father brought you to despair? In order to keep you from looking for any ground of hope in yourself; that you should not trust in yourself, but in God Who raiseth the dead.” -MJS


“For the Father Himself loveth you” (John 16:27).

 

[Josiah]

Who is "MJS" and "CAC"?

Could you clarify your point here? What is it, specifically, you want us to discuss?

Thanks!


Josiah

 

[NetChaplain]

Who is "MJS" and "CAC"?

Could you clarify your point here? What is it, specifically, you want us to discuss?

Thanks!


Josiah

Hi! Thanks for the reply and like your signature. No point necessarily, just sharing some good old spiritual growth teachings from the Plymouth Brethren authors (circa 1600's-1800's). Their work centers on spiritual growth teachings within the NT, esp. within the Pauline Epistles.

Miles Stanford (MJS); Charles Andrew Coates (1862-1945) Charles Andrew Coates | Plymouth Brethren Archive

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[pinacled]

Who is "MJS" and "CAC"?

Could you clarify your point here? What is it, specifically, you want us to discuss?

Thanks!


Josiah

Plymouth Brethren - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Excerpt: leadership
[One of the most defining elements of the Brethren is the rejection of the concept of clergy. Their view is that all Christians are ordained by God to serve and therefore all are ministers, in keeping with the doctrine of the priesthood of all believers. The Brethren embrace the most extensive form of that idea, in that there is no ordained or unordained person or group employed to function as minister(s) or pastors. Brethren assemblies are led by the local church elders within any fellowship.]

 

[pinacled]

Who is "MJS" and "CAC"?

Could you clarify your point here? What is it, specifically, you want us to discuss?

Thanks!


Josiah

Obscurities of british historical movements amongst outcast of the church of england similar to luther and catholicism having a political rivalry surrounded with greed.

 

[NetChaplain]

Obscurities of british historical movements amongst outcast of the church of england similar to luther and catholicism having a political rivalry surrounded with greed.

Hi, and like the way you worded your comment, though I wouldn't say greed, but a difference in understanding and therefore varying convictions between one another (as all believers have). Not with sinful intentions but of a pressing conscience addressing what each deems vital for growth of truth. This is the same scenario with all organizations of man's religions. Religious practice of godliness within any Christian group cannot be flawless or completely without effect somewhere from "the old man." Believers are lights of the Son, which often flicker from the nature of sin, which He will not allow to be extinguished, just vary in brightness from one another (proof is in the product, i.e. doctrinal parallel with Scripture).

 

[pinacled]

Hi, and like the way you worded your comment, though I wouldn't say greed, but a difference in understanding and therefore varying convictions between one another (as all believers have). Not with sinful intentions but of a pressing conscience addressing what each deems vital for growth of truth. This is the same scenario with all organizations of man's religions. Religious practice of godliness within any Christian group cannot be flawless or completely without effect somewhere from "the old man." Believers are lights of the Son, which often flicker from the nature of sin, which He will not allow to be extinguished, just vary in brightness from one another (proof is in the product, i.e. doctrinal parallel with Scripture).

Thankyou,
Luther's issue was most assuredly rampant greed amongst the rcc hierarchy.
As for the outcast amongst the british orders of religion afore mentioned "church of england".
They include john wesley then the later developed methodist congregation and a few others such as the Plymouth brethren.

I agree that motives may vary for individuals separating themselves from older religious orders.
But greed is the root that luther pointed out.
Something that the rcc and church of england have in common amongst their heirarchy.

Blessings Always

 

[pinacled]

Hi, and like the way you worded your comment, though I wouldn't say greed, but a difference in understanding and therefore varying convictions between one another (as all believers have). Not with sinful intentions but of a pressing conscience addressing what each deems vital for growth of truth. This is the same scenario with all organizations of man's religions. Religious practice of godliness within any Christian group cannot be flawless or completely without effect somewhere from "the old man." Believers are lights of the Son, which often flicker from the nature of sin, which He will not allow to be extinguished, just vary in brightness from one another (proof is in the product, i.e. doctrinal parallel with Scripture).

Is there a theological point that you desire to discuss?

John 16:8