Bouan Philippe
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The following question was recently posted onto the Quora forum.
Please note that the key points of discussion have been highlighted:-
If Jesus Christ were to leave the UK in favour of France, which Christians could possibly question the infallible will of the Almighty?
Sebastian Rimbaud, Record Producer (2015-present)Written just now
This makes no sense. First of all Jesus would not be preoccupied by something unimportant like countries and if he did, Jesus Christ was a middle eastern jew. He would pretty much be like a modern day Palestinian for a reference. Plus it makes no sense for him to support either country. Especially after both destroyed the Middle East after WWI. And especially for Britain’s involvement with Israel and Palestine and for Frances involvement in Syria etc.
Plus Jesus is not an arrogant figure of authority like elohim/yawhe in the Old Testament where he had to compete in a politeistic climate.
all in all the answer Is that Jesus would never side with any of them. I’m pretty sure if Jesus was real and lived today he would pretty much disagree with most Christian institutions. Especially conservative Christians since he would be held as a socialist by today’s standards.
this also fails to understand it’s own theology. Isn’t Jesus supposed to be just a human with biases and defects? He would not possess an infallible will or be almighty.
plus an infallible god would not be blinded by something so irrelevant like nations. If Jesus did that it would mean it’s not really Jesus hence it wouldn’t matter who did it
plus how does that even work? How would Jesus end up in Britain and leave for france? And why would he choose a nation of people? And of all nations the uk, the us and france are the worst contenders for Jesus to support for being imperialistic nations, racist etc
The highlighted points are outright lies about God, Jesus, and His Holy Word in the Christian Bible, which will not go unpunished on the day of Judgment (Revelation 21:8):-
(1) Jesus being JUST a human with "biases and defects" is in direct contradiction with the NICENE CREED, which teaches the DIVINITY of the HOLY and Indivisible TRINITY, and the DIVINITY the Son of God.
Having biases and defects doesn't mean that God is errant to jump off a cliff, or to jump in front of oncoming traffic.
No major decision by God can be called "errant" such as His declaration of war and genocide against the indigenous peoples of Canaan in Deuteronomy 20:16-17.
Nor can the Christ-perpetrated Armageddon (Matthew 10:34) or future genocide (Revelation 6:4, 8; 9:15; 19:21 & Isaiah 24:6) be called "errant" on the part of anyone who is FULLY DIVINE AND FULLY HUMAN (meaning that Jesus has God-given biases [Romans 9:21] but ONLY human defects).
Also, Matthew 25:31-33 has specifically stated that God would Judge the "sheep" and "goat nations" as a HUMAN who is called the Son of MAN in verse 31.
Consequently, "God as a defective human" doesn't imply that He has an "impaired cognitive faculty", which renders him incapable of undertaking the key and major decisions throughout history, such as His Judgment of the "sheep" and "goat nations" in Matthew 25:31-33.
Such a major undertaking cannot be called "errant" if the Son of God is FULLY DIVINE AND FULLY HUMAN, in concordance with the Nicene Creed (John 1:1-3, 3:31, 7:16, 10:30, 12:49 & 14:7; Colossians 1:15, 2:9 & Revelation 19:13).
Furthermore, God's innate biases (Romans 9:22) should never be mistaken, misconstrued, nor CONFLATED alongside the innate defects of being human, since God was also a human under the guise of Jesus in the 1st century AD.
For they are distinct and separate concepts, which should never be conflated nor misrepresented.
Consequently, being human doesn't mitigate God's intellectual and cognitive faculty, nor impair his ability to undertake the key and major decisions in history, which have the most profound and far reaching consequences.
Such as His perpetration of Armageddon (Matthew 10:34) and the three successive waves of genocide in Revelation 6:4, 8; 9:15, 19:21 & Isaiah 24:6.
(2) Such conservatives are the Fake Christians or "Rejected Silver" who've consistently lied and misrepresented Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 and Jeremiah 6:30.
However, the late Duke of Edinburgh has rightly attested that Jesus was a "Conservative Christian" who would never support the CPC, which makes him a True believer, but not a conservative Fake Christian at all.
So, who should Jesus believe? His own Father (John 10:30), or a Fake foreign Christian who has consistently lied and misrepresented Jesus, just as so many others have also misrepresented the Son of God?
(3) The third and final point is an outright lie, which is itself a contradiction of course.
For the implication is that China should be the global epicenter of Christianity and God's Eternal Kingdom instead of America, UK or FRANCE.
But this is totally unthinkable in view of the Nicene Creed and the fact that you have consistently called God a liar.
Also, it is inconceivable in view of God's innate biases short of using racial & ethnic slurs to describe the comparative "honour" and "dishonour" of the different nations/groups of people (Romans 9:21) whom he had created, conceived, and demarcated since the foundation of the world in Acts 17:26.
Ultimately, these are nothing but outright LIES about God, Jesus, and the Christian Bible, which will not go unpunished on the day of Judgment (Revelation 21:8).
Amen.
Please note that the key points of discussion have been highlighted:-
If Jesus Christ were to leave the UK in favour of France, which Christians could possibly question the infallible will of the Almighty?
Sebastian Rimbaud, Record Producer (2015-present)Written just now
This makes no sense. First of all Jesus would not be preoccupied by something unimportant like countries and if he did, Jesus Christ was a middle eastern jew. He would pretty much be like a modern day Palestinian for a reference. Plus it makes no sense for him to support either country. Especially after both destroyed the Middle East after WWI. And especially for Britain’s involvement with Israel and Palestine and for Frances involvement in Syria etc.
Plus Jesus is not an arrogant figure of authority like elohim/yawhe in the Old Testament where he had to compete in a politeistic climate.
all in all the answer Is that Jesus would never side with any of them. I’m pretty sure if Jesus was real and lived today he would pretty much disagree with most Christian institutions. Especially conservative Christians since he would be held as a socialist by today’s standards.
this also fails to understand it’s own theology. Isn’t Jesus supposed to be just a human with biases and defects? He would not possess an infallible will or be almighty.
plus an infallible god would not be blinded by something so irrelevant like nations. If Jesus did that it would mean it’s not really Jesus hence it wouldn’t matter who did it
plus how does that even work? How would Jesus end up in Britain and leave for france? And why would he choose a nation of people? And of all nations the uk, the us and france are the worst contenders for Jesus to support for being imperialistic nations, racist etc
The highlighted points are outright lies about God, Jesus, and His Holy Word in the Christian Bible, which will not go unpunished on the day of Judgment (Revelation 21:8):-
(1) Jesus being JUST a human with "biases and defects" is in direct contradiction with the NICENE CREED, which teaches the DIVINITY of the HOLY and Indivisible TRINITY, and the DIVINITY the Son of God.
Having biases and defects doesn't mean that God is errant to jump off a cliff, or to jump in front of oncoming traffic.
No major decision by God can be called "errant" such as His declaration of war and genocide against the indigenous peoples of Canaan in Deuteronomy 20:16-17.
Nor can the Christ-perpetrated Armageddon (Matthew 10:34) or future genocide (Revelation 6:4, 8; 9:15; 19:21 & Isaiah 24:6) be called "errant" on the part of anyone who is FULLY DIVINE AND FULLY HUMAN (meaning that Jesus has God-given biases [Romans 9:21] but ONLY human defects).
Also, Matthew 25:31-33 has specifically stated that God would Judge the "sheep" and "goat nations" as a HUMAN who is called the Son of MAN in verse 31.
Consequently, "God as a defective human" doesn't imply that He has an "impaired cognitive faculty", which renders him incapable of undertaking the key and major decisions throughout history, such as His Judgment of the "sheep" and "goat nations" in Matthew 25:31-33.
Such a major undertaking cannot be called "errant" if the Son of God is FULLY DIVINE AND FULLY HUMAN, in concordance with the Nicene Creed (John 1:1-3, 3:31, 7:16, 10:30, 12:49 & 14:7; Colossians 1:15, 2:9 & Revelation 19:13).
Furthermore, God's innate biases (Romans 9:22) should never be mistaken, misconstrued, nor CONFLATED alongside the innate defects of being human, since God was also a human under the guise of Jesus in the 1st century AD.
For they are distinct and separate concepts, which should never be conflated nor misrepresented.
Consequently, being human doesn't mitigate God's intellectual and cognitive faculty, nor impair his ability to undertake the key and major decisions in history, which have the most profound and far reaching consequences.
Such as His perpetration of Armageddon (Matthew 10:34) and the three successive waves of genocide in Revelation 6:4, 8; 9:15, 19:21 & Isaiah 24:6.
(2) Such conservatives are the Fake Christians or "Rejected Silver" who've consistently lied and misrepresented Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 and Jeremiah 6:30.
However, the late Duke of Edinburgh has rightly attested that Jesus was a "Conservative Christian" who would never support the CPC, which makes him a True believer, but not a conservative Fake Christian at all.
So, who should Jesus believe? His own Father (John 10:30), or a Fake foreign Christian who has consistently lied and misrepresented Jesus, just as so many others have also misrepresented the Son of God?
(3) The third and final point is an outright lie, which is itself a contradiction of course.
For the implication is that China should be the global epicenter of Christianity and God's Eternal Kingdom instead of America, UK or FRANCE.
But this is totally unthinkable in view of the Nicene Creed and the fact that you have consistently called God a liar.
Also, it is inconceivable in view of God's innate biases short of using racial & ethnic slurs to describe the comparative "honour" and "dishonour" of the different nations/groups of people (Romans 9:21) whom he had created, conceived, and demarcated since the foundation of the world in Acts 17:26.
Ultimately, these are nothing but outright LIES about God, Jesus, and the Christian Bible, which will not go unpunished on the day of Judgment (Revelation 21:8).
Amen.
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