Do you have the Holy Spirit? Check your Christianity.

[davidb]

Neither A.D.2061 or A.D.2068 show when the rapture, the tribulation, or the Millenium begin, since we don't know if Adam's year one in the book of Genesis is when he was created, or when he sinned by eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or how long after he was created that he sinned. The prophetic numbers in the Scripture as seen below show the 6000 year Biblical timeline, not how long after Adam was created that he sinned. Showing that the rapture is not imminent.
A.D.2067 d 10 m 7 y 31 to A.D.2068 d 9 m 7 y 31. If the year 3933B.C. was when Adam was created, then 2068B.C. would be 6000 years since creation. The rapture, the seven year tribulation, and the Millenium would be after this date.
A.D.2066 d 10 m 7 y 30 to A.D.2067 d 9 m 7 y 30.
A.D.2065 d 10 m 7 y 29 to A.D.2066 d 9 m 7 y 29.
A.D.2064 d 10 m 7 y 28. SABBATH YEAR.
Con't at 360 Degree Ancient Calendar - Google Groups



From the point of view of the fate of the baby, not the mother-who would be committing a murder, why do 'professing' Christians care about a baby being aborted. The baby would be saved and would have no chance of being born, not repenting and eventually ending up burning in hell for eternity. But 'professing' Christians do care that babies are being aborted, because, even though they err in believing that babies and children up to the age of accountability (which they claim is true, but is not in the Scriptures) are saved, they know in their heart that this is not true. God designed Adam and Eve sinless. Babies from conception, originally made in the image of God, after sin, ended up being born after the likeness and image of Adam-which is of sinful flesh. Genesis 5:1-3. Genesis 9:6. The bible says there is not a man born that does not sin. Yes original sin is real. Jacob and Esau were fighting each other in their mothers womb. God does not force people to have children, even Mary had a choice of being the mother of Jesus. You are giving birth to a child that does not want to be born and greater than 99.9% will not be saved. The Bible says to leave all, Matthew 19:29-Mark 10:29, take up the cross, it does not say to have worldly families. It says to become a child of God, become part of the family of God, not to have earthly families. The difficulties you have leaving all will not bother those who repent in eternity. The Scripture says the old world will not even come into mind, people are given a white stone with a new name. Matthew 22:30. Christ will say on judgement day to a baby that died in the womb, or a small child that did not repent, I never knew you. They did not grow up to realize God existed, give up their lives, take up the cross, repent and were faithful unto death. Even frozen fertilized human eggs that are destroyed-killed, send those poor souls to torments, they have not repented. The bible talks about those who are not born, they at least did not have to see the evil done under the sun. The scripture says you have to be born of water and fire to be saved, how can a unborn child be born of fire-the Spirit. John 3:3-8. God acknowledges humans from conception, He knit humans together in their mothers womb. People, government, police officers, soldiers, have no excuse watching those who are carried off to the slaughter, being in their power to do something about it and they don't. Allowing those to be crushed, who can't speak for themselves. Proverbs 31:8-9. Psalm 139. Proverbs 24:10-12. Samuel did not know the LORD. First Samuel 3:7.



You cannot just claim you have GODS Spirit, that you have been baptized with fire, to give you a chance to repent. God gives the Spirit to whom he chooses. Its not enough for you to claim you have the Holy Spirit. Luke 11:13. Pray ask GOD over and over again for His Spirit. Luke 18:1-8. With God anything is possible. John 17.
When you are at first baptized with fire-the Spirit, you will hear the Spirit descend on you out of heaven like a rushing wind and shake the building you are in, as stated in the book of Acts 1:1-5, 2:2, 4:31. Acts 11:15-18. John 1:32. John 3:8. If not, you have never been baptized with fire. The scripture teaches that this happens to anyone GOD chooses to send his Spirit to. You will then start to show the gifts of the Spirit. First Corinthians 12, 14.
Some time afterward, possibly weeks, God will reveal himself to you, hearing Him in your head, telling you he exists and that the universe is infinite and to read the Book of Revelation.
You will also receive your own personal visit from Satan, like Christ did, in a dream or vision. You would be walking beside a giant, towering over you, dressed in a white robe, being told you will not get away from him. Trying to prevent you from breaking off all your sins by righteousness. This is stated in Scripture when Christ is tempted by Satan in the desert. Matthew 3:16, 4:1. The white robe is what is meant by Satan being transfigured into an angel of light. Second Corinthians 11:14.

You can have experiences like seeing visions when waking up from your sleep of small squares of brilliant white and silver light on your wall representing paradise-heaven, simultaneously with large squares of black rolling fire representing torments-hell, showing you to choose and repent.

You can also be moved against your will from a sitting or lying position to bring you across a room to see a vision of a animal, say a cat. Pay attention to these vision they could be showing you how in the future some abnormal action by this cat, like it screaming with a loud meow, can warn you how the decision you are making could end up with you falling away from the faith and committing the unforgivable sin.

With GODS Spirit in you, if someone did something as simple as putting a crying baby in your arms, the child would immediately stop crying.

When reading your authorized King James version of the Bible, when you get to the passage that says 'GOD with us', Matthew 1:23, you could briefly feel worms crawling in your flesh from head to toe because Satan is attacking you trying to get you to stop your repentance and commit the unforgiveable sin.

You will hear the still small voice in your head totally against your will, guiding you. If you cut your hand and you instinctively lick the wound, you will hear in your head don't eat blood. If you do something that will cause an argument you will be told before hand, so maybe you will be able to reverse what you did to prevent it from happening. You can hear in your head you will be met, and sometime later have an encounter you knew was coming. Know future events before they happen. The Spirit of prophecy.

After praying to GOD in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ asking questions, you could wake up verbally reciting chapter and verse of Scripture for you to look up, an answer to your prayer.

When praying you could ask about the fate of a dead family member and wake up seeing them in a vision on your wall walking out of a square of black fire saying 'there is a lot of room where I come from'.

When experiencing the death of a loved one, Satan could enter you and cause you to laugh at there death, hearing him insult them in your head. You are not suppose to be there anyway you are to leave all. Let the dead bury the dead.

When on your face-kneeling and praying you could hear in your head to look behind you, and when you do, you see a light in the corner that blinks out. Most likely Satan imitating an angel of light, because if it was a righteous angel it would drain the energy out of you.

Jesus became a man to show exactly how to be saved by doing all that He did. He was called a Son and answered to His Father. Like mankind has to be faithful unto death, be a true and faithful witness to all that is written. Repent, take up cross. Die on the cross daily. To become a son or daughter of GOD.

Some say there is no pretribulation rapture because the church has to suffer persecution. The rapture is before the tribulation and the reason professing Christians don't suffer persecution like say the Apostle Paul and the early Christians did is because they are not baptized with fire and on their way to being saved. They are people who spend their time on a stage, on the internet, in a building, with security, surrounded by like minded people. And those who speak up, showing how their worship is wrong are immediately removed. Your suppose to preach the gospel travelling two by two. Acts 14:22. There is no such thing as a Christian who has a job living off of the tithe money of a church.

You will be expected to leave all. Jesus left His family. Mark 3:31-35. Luke 14:26. Matthew 19:29. Mark 10:29, 30. Leave parents, kids, lands, etc. No earthly families. Hate father, mother, wife, etc. Matthew 10:37, 38. Narrow is the way, few find it. Matthew 7:13, 14. Many called, only few chosen. Matthew 22:14.
Paul went to Arabia before he returned to Judah-Syria to teach. Galatians 1:17.

With the Holy Spirit in you, you will be physically annoyed being around sinful people. Lot was vexed in Sodom. Second Peter 2:7.

Sometime after you first receive the Spirit you will come to a state where you are physically in fear and trembling knowing GOD exists and you are sinful. A good example of the fear and trembling you will experience is a video of victims of war. Adults and children in tears, full of fear and shaking-trembling. Almost unable to even catch their breathe.
Acts 20:31. First Corinthians 2:3. Philippians 2:12. GOD chasteneth whom He receiveth. Hebrews 12:6.

How can a person on their death bed be saved, how can an unborn child be saved. Matthew 25:35-46.

 

[jswauto]

Is this an accurate assessment of your post:

This is a profound and complex statement that weaves together theological arguments about Original Sin, the Fate of the Unborn, the Nature of Salvation, and the Evidence of the Holy Spirit.

Since you have presented a highly detailed set of premises derived from a specific, literalist interpretation of Scripture, I will summarize your core arguments regarding the morality of abortion, the fate of the fetus, and the critique of "professing" Christians.

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Summary of Your Theological Argument​

Your position is built upon a strict interpretation of original sin and the specific, observable requirements for genuine salvation.

I. The Fate of the Unborn Baby (The Core Argument)​

You argue that abortion, from the baby's perspective, is not an escape to salvation but a sentence of damnation, directly challenging the common "age of accountability" doctrine:

• Original Sin is Universal (Genesis 5:1-3): You assert that all humans, from conception, are born in the likeness and image of sinful Adam, meaning they are inherently sinful. The struggle between Jacob and Esau in the womb is cited as evidence of inherent sinfulness, even pre-birth.
• The Necessity of Repentance and the Cross: True salvation requires specific, conscious actions: realizing God exists, taking up the cross daily, repenting, and being faithful unto death.
• Lack of Repentance = Damnation: Since an aborted baby or destroyed embryo has had no opportunity to repent, take up the cross, or be born of the Spirit, you conclude their soul is consigned to "torments" (hell).
• Rejection of "Age of Accountability": You directly reject the popular Christian belief that babies are automatically "saved" upon death, stating that Christ would say, "I never knew you" to the unrepentant child on Judgment Day (citing a literal application of Matthew 25 and 22:30).

II. Critique of "Professing" Christians and Abortion​

You argue that the true reason "professing" Christians care about abortion is because they inherently know, deep down, that the "age of accountability" doctrine they preach is false:

• Hypocrisy: Their concern for the unborn reveals their internal, unspoken fear that the aborted soul is, in fact, not going to Heaven but to torment, thus giving them a stronger motivation to act (citing Proverbs 24:10-12 and Proverbs 31:8-9).
• Murder for Eternity: The murder (abortion) effectively seals the baby's eternal fate to torment, a result worse than the difficulty faced by the faithful on earth.

III. The Strict Requirements of True Discipleship​

You link the issue of abortion to a broader, literal call for total abandonment of worldly life, setting an extremely high bar for salvation:

• No Earthly Families (Matthew 19:29, Mark 10:29, Luke 14:26): You assert that the Bible mandates leaving all family (even hating father, mother, wife, children) and worldly possessions to become part of the Family of God, stating that "worldly families" are incompatible with the cross.
• The Unforgiving Narrow Way (Matthew 7:13-14): Salvation is achieved only by those who follow this extremely narrow path.

IV. The Physical and Observable Proof of the Holy Spirit​

You establish a very literal, observable, and intense set of physical phenomena required to prove that one has received the Holy Spirit ("Baptism with Fire"), rejecting mere claims of faith:

• The Sound and the Shake (Acts 1, 2, 4): The initial baptism with fire must be accompanied by observable, physical events: hearing a rushing wind and having the building shake.
• Physical Effects of the Spirit:The presence of the Spirit results in observable physical phenomena, such as:
  • Healing/Peace: A crying baby immediately stops crying when placed in your arms.
  • Physical Annoyance: Feeling physically annoyed being around sinful people (like Lot in Sodom).
  • Prophecy/Guidance: Hearing the "still small voice" guiding you, warning against sin (e.g., licking a wound), and revealing future events.
• Visitations and Attacks: Receiving visions (squares of light/fire), physical manipulation ("moved against your will"), and direct, physical, terrifying attacks from Satan (feeling worms crawl in your flesh, laughing at death), who appears as an "angel of light."

You conclude that because "professing" Christians lack this physical evidence and commitment to total abandonment, they are not on the narrow path and are therefore unable to preach the gospel effectively or suffer true persecution.

 

[SetFree]

When The Spirit fell upon Lord Jesus at His baptism, The Holy Spirit came upon Him in the form of a dove.

In 1 Cor.12-14, Apostle Paul was preaching about KNOWN languages of the world, not a gibberish tongue that requires an interpreter.

Acts 2 reveals HOW the True Cloven tongue of Pentecost manifested; it did not need an interpreter. It manifested among the peoples present there out of various nations in the exact dialects of their language of birth.

Per Apostle Paul in 1 Cor.12, not all those in Christ exhibit all the gifts, yet all make up Christ's Body The Church...

1 Cor 12:4-11
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
KJV

And mind you, the phrase "divers kinds of tongues" means LANGUAGES, not... a gibberish tongue that requires an interpreter. The following subject alternation in the Greek of what was spoken on Pentecost per Acts 2 is a Holy Spirit marking in God's written Word:

(from KJV):
Acts 2:3 - "tongues" = Greek glossa (known languages)
Acts 2:4 - "tongues" = Greek glossa
.......Acts 2:6 - "language" = Greek dialektos (dialect)
.......Acts 2:8 - "tongue" = Greek dialektos
Acts 2:11 - "tongues" = Greek glossa
Acts 2:26 - "tongue" = Greek glossa



1 Cor 12:28-31
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
KJV

What Paul said above reveals that those in Christ are not necessarily given ALL... those gifts by The Holy Spirit. And this is a HUGE... revelation against those try to claim that if those in Christ don't speak their gibberish tongue that's proof they don't have The Holy Spirit!

I've had those who claim to speak the cloven tongue of Pentecost come up to me when I told them I am a Christian, and tell me if I don't speak in tongues then I don't have proof of The Holy Spirit.

What those show is that they are DECEIVED, and that they have NOT even studied what Apostle Paul actually said in those 1 Corinthians 12 thru 14 Chapters!

And do you want to know what I ask them after they say that to me? I ask them if they understood what Peter quoting from the end of the Book of Joel was about, and what timing it was for? They had NO CLUE. They only assumed... it was for that day of Pentecost. No... Peter was showing that part of Joel 2 he quoted is for the very END of this world just PRIOR to the "day of the Lord", which is the Day of Christ's future return, the LAST DAY of this world. This means the true cloven tongue is to manifest at the very END of this world DURING the coming "great tribulation".

The LORD is going to speak to the WHOLE WORLD through His servants that will be delivered up DURING the "great tribulation". That is what Lord Jesus was forewarning us about in Mark 13:9-13 that some of us will be delivered up at the END to give a Testimony for Jesus by The Holy Spirit speaking through us, and to not premeditate what we will say in that hour, but allow The Holy Spirit to speak through us. That Testimony will be part of the working of the "two candlesticks" of Rev.11, for the "candlesticks" according to Lord Jesus at the end of Rev.1 means the Churches. How is it that The Holy Spirit has NOT let those who speak a gibberish tongue know about that for the END of this world, and why they will go through the coming "great tribulation"???

Thing is, and something else that I asked them, is do they believe they will be 'raptured' out PRIOR to the "great tribulation", and they said yes. Well, HOW... will they exhibit the TRUE cloven tongue of Pentecost during the "great tribulation" if they are not here?? Surely The Holy Spirit would show them that?? Huh? But ANOTHER SPIRIT would NOT show them this, but instead would try and PREVENT them from knowing about it, and prevent them from giving that Testimony for Christ against the beast at the END of this world.

I don't speak the gibberish tongue. And since they believe I must, in order to prove that I have the gift of The Holy Spirit, then HOW is it that I know about these duties by Lord Jesus for His servants at the END of this world DURING the coming "great tribulation" time, and they... do not???

The problem with them is the same... one that exists in many Christian denominations today, the 'traditions of men' have crept in trying to make up THEIR OWN RULES instead to staying with what is written in God's Word.

So in SUMMARY:
Brethren believers on Jesus Christ, NOT to be concerned with these types, because if they don't know why they will go through the future "great tribulation", and what the cloven tongue is to be used for at the END during that time, then it means they have ONLY the "Oil" that is in their lamps which the "five foolish virgins" had only, and NOT the spare vessel of The Oil which the "five wise virgins" had to go with The Oil in their lamps.

 

[Frankj]

I've had those who claim to speak the cloven tongue of Pentecost come up to me when I told them I am a Christian, and tell me if I don't speak in tongues then I don't have proof of The Holy Spirit.

Simply answer them: bree-ah shal-um veer-ahn ka-lee soh-muhn, ah-ree-vahn sha-ree, na-voh lim-ehn ooh-rah, sel-lah, vahn-dee.

 

[jswauto]

Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 14:1: “Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy.”

Why Prophecy Is Called the Greatest
1. Prophecy Builds Up the Body
Unlike tongues or private gifts, prophecy is given to edify, encourage, and comfort the entire church (1 Corinthians 14:3). It strengthens faith, confirms direction, and brings clarity in times of confusion. It is a gift that multiplies impact because it is spoken outwardly for others.

2. Prophecy Reveals God’s Heart
Prophecy is not fortune-telling; it is the Spirit revealing the mind and heart of God for His people. It makes the invisible visible, the eternal immediate, and the divine personal. Through prophecy, believers experience God’s intimacy and guidance in real time.

3. Prophecy Aligns with Scripture
True prophecy never contradicts the Word of God. Instead, it illuminates Scripture, applying timeless truth to present circumstances. It is the Spirit breathing life into the written Word, making it a living voice for today.

4. Prophecy Equips and Warns
Prophecy prepares the church for challenges, warns against deception, and equips believers to stand firm. Throughout history, prophetic voices have guided nations, preserved Israel, and strengthened the faithful. It is both a shield and a compass.

5. Prophecy as a Flame
When Paul says “the greatest of these is prophecy,” he highlights its communal power. Love is the foundation, but prophecy is the flame that spreads light across the body. It ignites faith, restores hope, and keeps the church aligned with God’s purposes.


The Bible contains many passages on the power and usage of prophecy—emhasizing its role in edifying the church, revealing God’s heart, warning against sin, and testifying to Jesus. Key scriptures include 1 Corinthians 14:1–3, Acts 2:17, Amos 3:7, Revelation 19:10, and 2 Peter 1:21.

Scriptures on the Power and Usage of Prophecy
Prophecy as a Gift of the Spirit
• 1 Corinthians 14:1 — “Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy.”
• 1 Corinthians 14:3 — “The one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort.”
• 1 Corinthians 13:2 — “If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge… but do not have love, I am nothing.”
Usage: Prophecy is meant to build up the body of Christ, not glorify the prophet.

Prophecy as Revelation
• Acts 2:17 — “In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy…”
• Amos 3:7 — “Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.”
• 2 Peter 1:21 — “For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

Usage: Prophecy reveals God’s plans and aligns His people with His purposes.

Prophecy Testifies to Jesus
• Revelation 19:10 — “For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Usage: All true prophecy points back to Christ, magnifying His work and His kingdom.

Prophecy as Warning and Guidance
• Ezekiel 33:7–8 — “Son of man, I have made you a watchman… give them warning from me.”
• 1 Thessalonians 5:20–21 — “Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good.”
• Deuteronomy 18:21–22 — “If what a prophet proclaims… does not take place, that is a message the Lord has not spoken.”
Usage: Prophecy warns, guides, and must be tested against Scripture and fulfillment.

Prophecy in the Church
• Ephesians 2:19–20 — “Built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.”
• Acts 19:6 — “When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.”
Usage: Prophecy is foundational for the church, confirming God’s presence and direction.

Summary
• Power of Prophecy: Strengthens, encourages, comforts, warns, and reveals God’s plans.
• Usage of Prophecy: Always tested, always Christ-centered, always for the edification of the body.
• Core Principle: Prophecy is love expressed through revelation, pointing people back to Jesus.

 

[jswauto]

Light the Fire of the Flame of the Fear of the Lord--I need the Fear of the Lord!

What is the Fear of the Lord?​

• It’s not terror or dread—it’s a holy awe and reverence for God’s majesty, holiness, and authority.
• It produces humility, obedience, and a deep desire to honor God in every area of life.
• It’s the foundation for wisdom, purity, and intimacy with Him.

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“Light the fire of the flame of the fear of the Lord”​

This is a powerful prayer image:

• Fire represents passion, purification, and the presence of God.
• You’re asking for the fear of the Lord to burn brightly in your heart—consuming pride, complacency, and sin, and igniting holy devotion.

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Practical Prayer You Can Pray​

Father, ignite in me the holy fire of reverence for You. Let the fear of the Lord consume every part of me—my thoughts, my desires, my actions. Teach me to walk in awe of Your holiness and love, so that my life reflects Your glory. Amen.

Prayer Declaration: Ignite the Fear of the Lord​

Heavenly Father,
I come before You with a humble heart, longing for Your presence and Your holiness. Today, I declare that I desire the fear of the Lord above all earthly wisdom and strength. Your Word says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and I choose to walk in that wisdom.
Lord, ignite a holy fire within me—
A flame that burns away pride, selfishness, and compromise. Let this fire purify my thoughts, my words, and my actions. Teach me to tremble at Your Word, to honor Your name, and to live in awe of Your majesty.
I declare that I will not lean on my own understanding,
But I will acknowledge You in all my ways. I surrender my plans, my desires, and my ambitions to You. Let the fear of the Lord guide my decisions, guard my heart, and keep me on the path of righteousness.
Father, fill me with reverence for Your holiness.
Let me love what You love and hate what You hate. May Your Spirit convict me quickly and lead me into obedience. I declare that I will walk in purity, humility, and truth, for Your glory alone.
Today, I choose to live in holy awe of You.
I will honor You in secret and in public, in my thoughts and in my deeds. Let the fear of the Lord be the foundation of my life, my family, and my future.
In Jesus’ name, I declare this and receive it by faith. Amen.



Fear of the Lord Scriptures

Foundational Verses​

• Proverbs 9:10 – “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.”
• Proverbs 1:7 – “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”

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Promises for Those Who Fear the Lord​

• Psalm 25:14 – “The Lord confides in those who fear Him; He makes His covenant known to them.”
• Psalm 34:7 – “The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him, and He delivers them.”
• Psalm 34:9 – “Fear the Lord, you His holy people, for those who fear Him lack nothing.”
• Psalm 103:17 – “But from everlasting to everlasting the Lord’s love is with those who fear Him, and His righteousness with their children’s children.”

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Blessings of the Fear of the Lord​

• Proverbs 10:27 – “The fear of the Lord adds length to life, but the years of the wicked are cut short.”
• Proverbs 14:26-27 – “Whoever fears the Lord has a secure fortress, and for their children it will be a refuge. The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, turning a person from the snares of death.”
• Proverbs 19:23 – “The fear of the Lord leads to life; then one rests content, untouched by trouble.”

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Call to Walk in the Fear of the Lord​

• Ecclesiastes 12:13 – “Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind.”
• Isaiah 11:2-3 – “The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him—the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the Lord—and He will delight in the fear of the Lord.”

 

[davidb]

The seven feasts of the LORD, all having to do with 'Father, Son, and Holy Spirit'. (1.) Passover, the death of Christ for the sins of mankind in the 1st Biblical month. (2.) Unleavened Bread, shows that GOD has zero tolerance for sin, the 1st Biblical month. (3.) Firstfruits, the resurrection of Christ, and the first fruits of the barley harvest, when he took those that rose with him on the third day, the 24 priests, whose names were used for the priestly courses/the 24 elders, to heaven and waved them, the wave sheaf offering, before his Father in the 1st Biblical month. (4.) Weeks/Pentecost, the birth of Christ in the 3rd Biblical month, 9 months after His conception in the 6th Biblical month, and the giving of the Holy Spirit. (5.) Trumpets, the rapture of the church at the beginning of the seven year tribulation in the 7th Biblical month. (6.) Day of Atonement, the beginning of the 50 year jubilee cycle in the 7th Biblical month. (7.) Tabernacles, including the 8th day, in the 7th Biblical month.
The two feasts in the Bible that have to do with 'John the Baptist'. (1.) Purim, the conception of John in the 12th biblical month. Esther 3:13. (2.) Dedication/Lights/Hanukkah, the birth of John in the 9th Biblical month, after his conception in the 12th Biblical month. Right after Jesus speaks with the Pharisees and the Sadducees at the feast of Dedication, John the Baptist is mentioned. John 10:22, 39-40.
The Jews were saved by a decree written in the 3rd Biblical month. Esther 8:8-12.
In the birth story of Christ, children are killed. In the Hannukah story, Antiochus the 4th killed Jewish children.


Self appointed professing Christians that get married just out of school/university, young adults, having kids when they themselves are not even saved, hypocrites creating eternal souls that don't want to be born, that have to repent or burn for eternity, their own parents knowing next to nothing about salvation. Doing all the things that the world does and calling their actions Christian. The Bible states those that want to repent and be saved are to leave all, even husbands, wives and children. Matthew 19:29. The deacons in First Timothy 3:12 would have become fathers decades after repenting in the Spirit, like the patriarchs who had children much later in their lives.
These counterfeit Christian marriages rest on First Corinthians 7:5 claiming they can have relations with their spouses whenever they want. Not unless you are willing to get pregnant every time. Sex is for procreation not pleasure. Second Timothy 3:4. First Corinthians 7:5 has to do with spending all your time/life with your spouse, not continually having sex with them when your not fasting or praying. These people claim they can have sex with their spouse when ever they want, but claim that someone who is a Christian and not married, cannot enjoy the pleasures of endorphins through self gratification, but they can, because they are married and can enjoy all the endorphins they want. Neither is correct, sex is for procreation. Drinking alcohol and taking drugs causes your body to release pleasure producing chemicals. Drugs and alcohol are against Scripture. In Genesis 38:8-10. Judah's son Onan was killed by GOD for spilling his seed on the ground, so that no child would be created.

A.D.2067 d 10 m 7 y 31 to A.D.2068 d 9 m 7 y 31. If the year 3933B.C. was when Adam was created, then 2068B.C. would be 6000 years since creation. The rapture, the seven year tribulation, and the Millenium would be after this date.
A.D.2060 d 10 m 7 y 24 to A.D.2061 d 9 m 7 y 24. In A.D.2061. If year one of Adam in the book of Genesis is when he was created, and Adam sinned shortly after, and taking the seven year tribulation into consideration, then the rapture cannot happen until at least A.D.2061. A.D.2068 can still be the 6000th year since Adam was created, the seven year tribulation taking place before the Millenium, which starts with the return of Christ.
Neither A.D.2061 or A.D.2068 show when the rapture, the tribulation, or the Millenium begin, since we don't know if Adam's year one in the book of Genesis is when he was created, or when he sinned by eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or how long after he was created that he sinned. The prophetic numbers in the Scripture as seen in this Google Group show the 6000 year Biblical timeline, not how long after Adam was created that he sinned. Showing that the rapture is not imminent.
GOD said before the flood mans days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Genesis 6:3. After the flood 70 or 80 years. Psalm 90:10. If you add 120 years to A.D.1948, the rebirth of Israel, you get A.D.2068. The oldest age reached in our time was almost 123 years old. Matthew 24:32-34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Jesus did not come to destroy the law, or the prophets. Matthew 5:17-19. You have to keep the ten commandments-even the Saturday Sabbath-even the high Holy days. John 14:15. John 15:10-14. In the Millennium the feast of Tabernacles is kept. Zechariah 14:16-19. Matthew 19:16-23. The ten commandments are divided into "two" great commandments. 1. Love the Lord thy GOD with all thy heart, and with all thy soul. 2. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Mark 12:29-33. Matthew 22:35-40. The first four commandments are how man is to act towards GOD. Exodus 20:1-17. Thou shalt have no other gods before GOD, Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain and Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. The last six commandments are how man is to act towards each other. Matthew 19:16-23. Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and thy mother and Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Defraud not. Thou shalt not covet. Mark 10:19. Romans 13:8, 9. Luke 18:20. Romans 7:7. In none of these passages does Jesus mention the first four commandments, not because they don't apply, just because he is talking about man's actions toward each other. Jesus told his disciples to eat the corn in the field on the sabbath because he was GOD and could give them permission to harvest on the sabbath. He said in this place is one greater than the temple. Mathew 12:1-8.

 

[Can't think of a name]

The seven feasts of the LORD, all having to do with 'Father, Son, and Holy Spirit'. (1.) Passover, the death of Christ for the sins of mankind in the 1st Biblical month. (2.) Unleavened Bread, shows that GOD has zero tolerance for sin, the 1st Biblical month. (3.) Firstfruits, the resurrection of Christ, and the first fruits of the barley harvest, when he took those that rose with him on the third day, the 24 priests, whose names were used for the priestly courses/the 24 elders, to heaven and waved them, the wave sheaf offering, before his Father in the 1st Biblical month. (4.) Weeks/Pentecost, the birth of Christ in the 3rd Biblical month, 9 months after His conception in the 6th Biblical month, and the giving of the Holy Spirit. (5.) Trumpets, the rapture of the church at the beginning of the seven year tribulation in the 7th Biblical month. (6.) Day of Atonement, the beginning of the 50 year jubilee cycle in the 7th Biblical month. (7.) Tabernacles, including the 8th day, in the 7th Biblical month.
The two feasts in the Bible that have to do with 'John the Baptist'. (1.) Purim, the conception of John in the 12th biblical month. Esther 3:13. (2.) Dedication/Lights/Hanukkah, the birth of John in the 9th Biblical month, after his conception in the 12th Biblical month. Right after Jesus speaks with the Pharisees and the Sadducees at the feast of Dedication, John the Baptist is mentioned. John 10:22, 39-40.
The Jews were saved by a decree written in the 3rd Biblical month. Esther 8:8-12.
In the birth story of Christ, children are killed. In the Hannukah story, Antiochus the 4th killed Jewish children.


Self appointed professing Christians that get married just out of school/university, young adults, having kids when they themselves are not even saved, hypocrites creating eternal souls that don't want to be born, that have to repent or burn for eternity, their own parents knowing next to nothing about salvation. Doing all the things that the world does and calling their actions Christian. The Bible states those that want to repent and be saved are to leave all, even husbands, wives and children. Matthew 19:29. The deacons in First Timothy 3:12 would have become fathers decades after repenting in the Spirit, like the patriarchs who had children much later in their lives.
These counterfeit Christian marriages rest on First Corinthians 7:5 claiming they can have relations with their spouses whenever they want. Not unless you are willing to get pregnant every time. Sex is for procreation not pleasure. Second Timothy 3:4. First Corinthians 7:5 has to do with spending all your time/life with your spouse, not continually having sex with them when your not fasting or praying. These people claim they can have sex with their spouse when ever they want, but claim that someone who is a Christian and not married, cannot enjoy the pleasures of endorphins through self gratification, but they can, because they are married and can enjoy all the endorphins they want. Neither is correct, sex is for procreation. Drinking alcohol and taking drugs causes your body to release pleasure producing chemicals. Drugs and alcohol are against Scripture. In Genesis 38:8-10. Judah's son Onan was killed by GOD for spilling his seed on the ground, so that no child would be created.

A.D.2067 d 10 m 7 y 31 to A.D.2068 d 9 m 7 y 31. If the year 3933B.C. was when Adam was created, then 2068B.C. would be 6000 years since creation. The rapture, the seven year tribulation, and the Millenium would be after this date.
A.D.2060 d 10 m 7 y 24 to A.D.2061 d 9 m 7 y 24. In A.D.2061. If year one of Adam in the book of Genesis is when he was created, and Adam sinned shortly after, and taking the seven year tribulation into consideration, then the rapture cannot happen until at least A.D.2061. A.D.2068 can still be the 6000th year since Adam was created, the seven year tribulation taking place before the Millenium, which starts with the return of Christ.
Neither A.D.2061 or A.D.2068 show when the rapture, the tribulation, or the Millenium begin, since we don't know if Adam's year one in the book of Genesis is when he was created, or when he sinned by eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or how long after he was created that he sinned. The prophetic numbers in the Scripture as seen in this Google Group show the 6000 year Biblical timeline, not how long after Adam was created that he sinned. Showing that the rapture is not imminent.
GOD said before the flood mans days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Genesis 6:3. After the flood 70 or 80 years. Psalm 90:10. If you add 120 years to A.D.1948, the rebirth of Israel, you get A.D.2068. The oldest age reached in our time was almost 123 years old. Matthew 24:32-34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Jesus did not come to destroy the law, or the prophets. Matthew 5:17-19. You have to keep the ten commandments-even the Saturday Sabbath-even the high Holy days. John 14:15. John 15:10-14. In the Millennium the feast of Tabernacles is kept. Zechariah 14:16-19. Matthew 19:16-23. The ten commandments are divided into "two" great commandments. 1. Love the Lord thy GOD with all thy heart, and with all thy soul. 2. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Mark 12:29-33. Matthew 22:35-40. The first four commandments are how man is to act towards GOD. Exodus 20:1-17. Thou shalt have no other gods before GOD, Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain and Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. The last six commandments are how man is to act towards each other. Matthew 19:16-23. Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and thy mother and Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Defraud not. Thou shalt not covet. Mark 10:19. Romans 13:8, 9. Luke 18:20. Romans 7:7. In none of these passages does Jesus mention the first four commandments, not because they don't apply, just because he is talking about man's actions toward each other. Jesus told his disciples to eat the corn in the field on the sabbath because he was GOD and could give them permission to harvest on the sabbath. He said in this place is one greater than the temple. Mathew 12:1-8.

The topic of this thread is "do you have the Holy Spirit?"

 

[Called of God]

Neither A.D.2061 or A.D.2068 show when the rapture, the tribulation, or the Millenium begin, since we don't know if Adam's year one in the book of Genesis is when he was created, or when he sinned by eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or how long after he was created that he sinned. The prophetic numbers in the Scripture as seen below show the 6000 year Biblical timeline, not how long after Adam was created that he sinned. Showing that the rapture is not imminent.
A.D.2067 d 10 m 7 y 31 to A.D.2068 d 9 m 7 y 31. If the year 3933B.C. was when Adam was created, then 2068B.C. would be 6000 years since creation. The rapture, the seven year tribulation, and the Millenium would be after this date.
A.D.2066 d 10 m 7 y 30 to A.D.2067 d 9 m 7 y 30.
A.D.2065 d 10 m 7 y 29 to A.D.2066 d 9 m 7 y 29.
A.D.2064 d 10 m 7 y 28. SABBATH YEAR.
Con't at 360 Degree Ancient Calendar - Google Groups

ACTUALLY....the bible does say when the rapture will be. I have read each word of the bible 15 times now, here is what it said: when Israel becomes a state, in 1948, "one generation shall not pass away" before the rapture. That is what the bible describes as 70 years, what God limited man's days to. That brings us to 2018. But it still did not happen. That means, right now, we are in the 70-ish. It was temporarily held up for some reason. I always figured that each event would happen in order, but that is not what is happening now. We are literally on borrowed time....only God knows why he delays it. But it was clearly told in the scripture. Also, especially if the child has colic, it will NOT stop crying immediately. Our daughter cried 22 hours straight, and nothing could stop that, it is nature. As far as prophesy, God put the holy spirit on me in the 4th grade, and I began to foretell deaths right away. I got so good at it, I even saw my own death. Believe me, that will get your attention. God saved my life up to 30 times now. When I was an infant, I died in an accident, and God brought me back. When I stopped breathing in my sleep, I met God, and saw him out the corner of my own eye. He showed me things in heaven, and called my name in his majestic voice. This voice does not sound like "many waters", it was like many sounds coming together, to make a voice. We experience telepathy on earth, this is what happens in heaven also. The choir sings, but their mouths do not move, but each is singing from their soul, mouths open. Each blends in with each other in such light, you can hardly tell male from female, or small to large. The very best of this world, cannot compare to the least in heaven.

 

[Frankj]

ACTUALLY....the bible does say when the rapture will be. I have read each word of the bible 15 times now, here is what it said: when Israel becomes a state, in 1948, "one generation shall not pass away" before the rapture. That is what the bible describes as 70 years, what God limited man's days to. That brings us to 2018. But it still did not happen. That means, right now, we are in the 70-ish. It was temporarily held up for some reason. I always figured that each event would happen in order, but that is not what is happening now. We are literally on borrowed time....only God knows why he delays it. But it was clearly told in the scripture. Also, especially if the child has colic, it will NOT stop crying immediately. Our daughter cried 22 hours straight, and nothing could stop that, it is nature. As far as prophesy, God put the holy spirit on me in the 4th grade, and I began to foretell deaths right away. I got so good at it, I even saw my own death. Believe me, that will get your attention. God saved my life up to 30 times now. When I was an infant, I died in an accident, and God brought me back. When I stopped breathing in my sleep, I met God, and saw him out the corner of my own eye. He showed me things in heaven, and called my name in his majestic voice. This voice does not sound like "many waters", it was like many sounds coming together, to make a voice. We experience telepathy on earth, this is what happens in heaven also. The choir sings, but their mouths do not move, but each is singing from their soul, mouths open. Each blends in with each other in such light, you can hardly tell male from female, or small to large. The very best of this world, cannot compare to the least in heaven.

I always try to find some scriptural basis for an argument when I read someone's post.


This one leaves me stumped since I can argue (to myself) both for and against each one presented.

To show where you're are coming from from a scriptural basis, could you explain how they are from the scriptures which you derived them from (and, of course, the scriptures that were used)?

 

[SetFree]

WATCH OUT BRETHREN IN CHRIST... for anyone who falsely claims the 'rapture' will happen PRIOR to the "great tribulation".

Lord Jesus showed in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 that the day of His future coming will be AFTER... the tribulation to gather His saints. And they are direct statements by Him.

Thus anyone who goes against that timing which Jesus showed for the day of His coming and gathering of His Church, is to be held suspect in what they teach. Don't listen to them, because they show they are already deceived, and will drag you along with them if you allow it. Listen to Christ Jesus in HIS Word, and not to their words.