Define "Making Disciples"?

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According to my Baptist Tradition, making disciples comes from teaching and preaching the Gospel and is work of the Holy Spirit that brings people to faith and repentance as a result of preaching/teaching the Gospel message to unbelievers. It is the hope that by proclaiming the gospel message some will hear and believe by the work of the Holy Spirit.
 

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IMO, it is most likely that generally "making disciples" means making followers of Jesus, those who are Christ-like. It's more than ONLY coming to faith/life (justification, narrow sense) but also sanctification (narrow sense).

I'd be careful to not IMPOSE great limitations on God, prohibitions on the Holy Spirit, that He is required to operate in certain ways and especially in a certain order/sequence. Or to confuse what we are commanded to do with what God is limited to using. I think that generally, MUCH is involved - the Holy Spirit GIVING 'the free gift" of faith/life typically via means (Word and Sacrament) and the family and Christian community nurturing, loving, caring, supporting, training, educating,,, together.



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IMO, it is most likely that generally "making disciples" means making followers of Jesus, those who are Christ-like. It's more than ONLY coming to faith/life (justification, narrow sense) but also sanctification (narrow sense).

I'd be careful to not IMPOSE great limitations on God, prohibitions on the Holy Spirit, that He is required to operate in certain ways and especially in a certain order/sequence. Or to confuse what we are commanded to do with what God is limited to using. I think that generally, MUCH is involved - the Holy Spirit GIVING 'the free gift" of faith/life typically via means (Word and Sacrament) and the family and Christian community nurturing, loving, caring, supporting, training, educating,,, together.



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Do you think there is a difference in "Making disciples" and "teaching disciples"?

And at what point does one become a disciple? Is it when one comes to a personal belief/faith, when one gets baptized, or some other point?
 

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Making disciples means to make followers of Christ, and not just some who say he was a good example, but followers who accept his every word, and therefore have saving faith. Disciples/followers of Christ will seek baptism to seal their discipleship.
 

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Jesus told his disciples how to go out and make more disciples: baptizing and teaching

Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
 

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According to my Baptist Tradition, making disciples comes from teaching and preaching the Gospel and is work of the Holy Spirit that brings people to faith and repentance as a result of preaching/teaching the Gospel message to unbelievers. It is the hope that by proclaiming the gospel message some will hear and believe by the work of the Holy Spirit.
Seems right. Obviously Joseph of Arimathea heard enough to convince him. The word translated disciple is mathētēs in the Greek. What's in a name . .?

Mat 27:57 Now when evening had come, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus.

Mar 15:43 Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent council member, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, coming and taking courage, went in to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus.

Luk 23:50-51 Now behold, there was a man named Joseph, a council member, a good and just man. (51) He had not consented to their decision and deed. He was from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who himself was also waiting for the kingdom of God.
 
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All those are but believers, and believers are not disciples or Christians but mere catechumens!

disciples are those who have both faith and baptism!
Becoming a Disciple by baptism!

Matt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”

John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism / water)

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Born again means Baptismal regeneration!

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38


Christian ritual of baptism:
Immersion, sprinkling, pour pure water over the forehead three time with the words, I baptize thee in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the Holy Spirit! Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 Matt 28:19 Acts 2:38-39 Acts 8:36-38 Acts 22:16
1 Pet 3:21

Proper intention: to make a new creature in Christ, to put on Christ, initiation into the new covenant of grace
Matter: pure water
Form: the words

Born again! Born from above!

Ez 36:25-27 promise of baptism

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!
 
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