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World Charles De Gaulle - Prophet Ahead of His Time

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The current events in Europe seem to suggest he was right about an independent course for France (and Europe). Europeans are now having to take things into their own hands. Thoughts?
 

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My thoughts is that we should just stay out of it, It's their part of the world, it's their problem, it needs to be their solution.

But I doubt we will, not enough people here want to.
 

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People not defending their nation become emasculated. I think that's a big reason for the snooty attitude toward Americans in many places.

Let's let these people be grown adults and defend their own land, assuming they have the resources.
 

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The current events in Europe seem to suggest he was right about an independent course for France (and Europe). Europeans are now having to take things into their own hands. Thoughts?

Sooner or later it makes sense to take responsibility for your own protection. Sharing with some other party makes sense but when sharing becomes abdication it leaves you at the mercy of the other party. That's hardly a prophetic statement.
 

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People not defending their nation become emasculated. I think that's a big reason for the snooty attitude toward Americans in many places.

Let's let these people be grown adults and defend their own land, assuming they have the resources.

The main reason for "snooty attitude" against Americans comes from Communist propaganda in Europe. I know, I've been all over Europe when stationed in the U.S military. Probably the biggest snobs against Americans that I ran into was in London. You can have it. But the peoples outside of London in the rural areas were just like being at home in the U.S.

The Communists are strong in all nations in western Europe, not just Eastern Europe.

When I was in Spain, on the Communist's May Day celebrations, if they saw any car with tourist license plates on it, they demolished it, some of them turning the cars over and setting them on fire. They rioted in the streets.

Spain historically has had a terrible history with Communism. In 1936 a Communist government was elected (supposedly) in Madrid, and the Spanish Communist leaders began working against Spain's royals and the Catholic Church. The Spanish Communist government was called a Republic, and was supported by Joseph Stalin in Moscow, Russia. Spanish military General Francisco Franco was a strong supporter of Spain's royal family, and the Church, so the leaders had assigned him to a post in Morocco, Africa, out of the way they thought. He balked, and formed an army and made an alliance with Fascists Mussolini and Hitler, who sent him military aid. Hitler and Mussolini were strong anti-Communists.

Thus the Spanish Civil War was actually a battle between World Communism and the Free nations (regardless that Hitler and Mussolini as Fascists were involved. And NO, I in no way support those like Hitler and Mussolini). The reality is that if Franco had not gotten support from the Fascists, Spain today would be a Communist nation like Cuba, or Vietnam, or North Korea, right smack in the backyard of Free western Europe. American Leftists like Ernest Hemingway volunteered to go to Spain then, and supported the Spanish Republican Communists, of which he wrote his novel about those Communists in his book For Whom The Bell Tolls.

In Italy, there have been several assassination attempts on Catholic popes by the Communists.

Per ex-KGB colonel Golitsyn that defected to the United States in the 1960's, in his 1984 book New Lies For Old, he said the Russian Communist's long range strategy for Europe was a one-Socialist Europe from the Russian Ural mountains to the Atlantic ocean. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) still stands in their way of accomplishing that. But the creation of the European Union was a good start towards Communist control of western Europe. This is most likely why after the Communists allowed the Berlin Wall to come down, Eastern European nations started petitioning to join NATO. This is actually what one of today's battles between Communist Russia and Ukraine and Georgia is about. Ukraine and Georgia want to join NATO. With both of those countries on Russia's southern border, Russia has moved in tanks and troops to show those nations that Russia still owns and controls them. Ex-Georgetown history professor Carrol Quigley in his 1960's book Tragedy and Hope, revealed that after WWII, Communist Russia and the U.S. and its allies made an agreement about border nations around the Soviet Union, that those nations (like Georgia, Ukraine, etc.) would serve as "shadow" states isolating Russia from the Free nations.

Thus we, the people of the United States, still have a duty to help the Free nations defend themselves from World Communism. The new F-35 Lightening fighter built by Lockheed is given to each nation in the NATO alliance, and the Communists don't have anything that even comes close to it. It's too bad things like that are still needed, since Leftists love to push the lie that World Communism is now dead, when it definitely is not dead.
 

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The main reason for "snooty attitude" against Americans comes from Communist propaganda in Europe. I know, I've been all over Europe when stationed in the U.S military. Probably the biggest snobs against Americans that I ran into was in London. You can have it. But the peoples outside of London in the rural areas were just like being at home in the U.S.

The Communists are strong in all nations in western Europe, not just Eastern Europe.

When I was in Spain, on the Communist's May Day celebrations, if they saw any car with tourist license plates on it, they demolished it, some of them turning the cars over and setting them on fire. They rioted in the streets.

Spain historically has had a terrible history with Communism. In 1936 a Communist government was elected (supposedly) in Madrid, and the Spanish Communist leaders began working against Spain's royals and the Catholic Church. The Spanish Communist government was called a Republic, and was supported by Joseph Stalin in Moscow, Russia. Spanish military General Francisco Franco was a strong supporter of Spain's royal family, and the Church, so the leaders had assigned him to a post in Morocco, Africa, out of the way they thought. He balked, and formed an army and made an alliance with Fascists Mussolini and Hitler, who sent him military aid. Hitler and Mussolini were strong anti-Communists.

Thus the Spanish Civil War was actually a battle between World Communism and the Free nations (regardless that Hitler and Mussolini as Fascists were involved. And NO, I in no way support those like Hitler and Mussolini). The reality is that if Franco had not gotten support from the Fascists, Spain today would be a Communist nation like Cuba, or Vietnam, or North Korea, right smack in the backyard of Free western Europe. American Leftists like Ernest Hemingway volunteered to go to Spain then, and supported the Spanish Republican Communists, of which he wrote his novel about those Communists in his book For Whom The Bell Tolls.

In Italy, there have been several assassination attempts on Catholic popes by the Communists.

Per ex-KGB colonel Golitsyn that defected to the United States in the 1960's, in his 1984 book New Lies For Old, he said the Russian Communist's long range strategy for Europe was a one-Socialist Europe from the Russian Ural mountains to the Atlantic ocean. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) still stands in their way of accomplishing that. But the creation of the European Union was a good start towards Communist control of western Europe. This is most likely why after the Communists allowed the Berlin Wall to come down, Eastern European nations started petitioning to join NATO. This is actually what one of today's battles between Communist Russia and Ukraine and Georgia is about. Ukraine and Georgia want to join NATO. With both of those countries on Russia's southern border, Russia has moved in tanks and troops to show those nations that Russia still owns and controls them. Ex-Georgetown history professor Carrol Quigley in his 1960's book Tragedy and Hope, revealed that after WWII, Communist Russia and the U.S. and its allies made an agreement about border nations around the Soviet Union, that those nations (like Georgia, Ukraine, etc.) would serve as "shadow" states isolating Russia from the Free nations.

Thus we, the people of the United States, still have a duty to help the Free nations defend themselves from World Communism. The new F-35 Lightening fighter built by Lockheed is given to each nation in the NATO alliance, and the Communists don't have anything that even comes close to it. It's too bad things like that are still needed, since Leftists love to push the lie that World Communism is now dead, when it definitely is not dead.
If defense against Communism is so important, why seek to restore a Russian Empire which wants the Soviet Union back (in a sense)?

And why would it be Communism, alone, as to why a snooty attitude would develop toward a more powerful nation with troops on their land? I mean, I know very well that nobody would want foreign troops on their land, especially conservative Milita types. Who are we kidding here?
 
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If defense against Communism is so important, why seek to restore a Russian Empire which wants the Soviet Union back (in a sense)?

You obviously do not understand that those who funded the 1917 Communist revolution in Moscow were wealthy rich from the Western nations. Trotsky left New York with $10,000 in his pocket, and he had no job. In 1917 how much would that amount have been worth? He was arrested in Halifax, Nova Scotia on his way to Moscow. That's how that he had 10k USD on him made public record. The British government told Halifax to release him. Lenin got funded by wealthy in Switzerland. And Lenin said that "Socialism is Communism."

Prior to the Communist revolution in Russia, the nation of Russia had been a Christian nation. The Russian royal family was kin to the royal families of Europe, Nicolaus a descendent of Queen Victoria, and his wife a descendent of the Queen of Denmark. They were Christians. The Communists murdered them, as their policies are against all religions, even though they eventually recognized they could not totally remove it as an idea from among the Russia peoples. So the Communist Party in Russia took over control of the Russian Orthodox Church, and said if you want to be a Christian in Russia, you can join that Church only, and none other, and no assemblies in one's home, etc. Over the years the KGB and Russian police had been persecuting Christians that held home Church and Bible study groups. Christians would sneak out at night in the cold to do baptisms.

During WWII, liberals in the U.S. government didn't believe Stalin and Communism was really a threat to the free nations. So the West was lenient with Stalin, agreeing to Communist Russia as an ally. American Lend-Lease during WWII practically built Russia's military and industrial base. Soviet agents that had infiltrated the U.S. government in the 1940s and 1950s influenced foreign policies that dropped U.S. support of Nationalist Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek who fought against the Communists and Mao tse tung. General George Marshall stopped all aid to Chiang Kai-shek, while Moscow was funding Mao and his Communist army, and this allowed millions of the Chinese peoples to fall under the control of Communism. Chiang Kai-shek fled to the island of Formosa with his army, which today is what's called the country of Taiwan. Later it was discovered that Soviet spies had infiltrated into the U.S. government, and influenced U.S. foreign policy. (See ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist. It can be found online as a .pdf. Skousen de-briefed one of those caught Soviet agents hidden in the U.S. state department, Whittaker Chambers).


Why... would wealthy individuals be behind funding World Socialism (i..e, Communism)? The answer to that ultimately leads to Bible prophecy about the end. What is the 1st beast of Revelation 13:1 that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns; what's that about? It is about the idea of a "one world government", a globalist kingdom, under their coming false-Messiah. Thus the ideals of World Communism is nothing but a tool used by Satan's host, of which include wealthy and very powerful individuals in the world, to help bring all nations into a future beast kingdom, or as they have called it, "a one world government."
 
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You obviously do not understand that those who funded the 1917 Communist revolution in Moscow were wealthy rich from the Western nations. Trotsky left New York with $10,000 in his pocket, and he had no job. In 1917 how much would that amount have been worth? He was arrested in Halifax, Nova Scotia on his way to Moscow. That's how that he had 10k USD on him made public record. The British government told Halifax to release him. Lenin got funded by wealthy in Switzerland. And Lenin said that "Socialism is Communism."

Prior to the Communist revolution in Russia, the nation of Russia had been a Christian nation. The Russian royal family was kin to the royal families of Europe, Nicolaus a descendent of Queen Victoria, and his wife a descendent of the Queen of Denmark. They were Christians. The Communists murdered them, as their policies are against all religions, even though they eventually recognized they could not totally remove it as an idea from among the Russia peoples. So the Communist Party in Russia took over control of the Russian Orthodox Church, and said if you want to be a Christian in Russia, you can join that Church only, and none other, and no assemblies in one's home, etc. Over the years the KGB and Russian police had been persecuting Christians that held home Church and Bible study groups. Christians would sneak out at night in the cold to do baptisms.

During WWII, liberals in the U.S. government didn't believe Stalin and Communism was really a threat to the free nations. So the West was lenient with Stalin, agreeing to Communist Russia as an ally. American Lend-Lease during WWII practically built Russia's military and industrial base. Soviet agents that had infiltrated the U.S. government in the 1940s and 1950s influenced foreign policies that dropped U.S. support of Nationalist Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek who fought against the Communists and Mao tse tung. General George Marshall stopped all aid to Chiang Kai-shek, while Moscow was funding Mao and his Communist army, and this allowed millions of the Chinese peoples to fall under the control of Communism. Chiang Kai-shek fled to the island of Formosa with his army, which today is what's called the country of Taiwan. Later it was discovered that Soviet spies had infiltrated into the U.S. government, and influenced U.S. foreign policy. (See ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist. It can be found online as a .pdf. Skousen de-briefed one of those caught Soviet agents hidden in the U.S. state department, Whittaker Chambers).


Why... would wealthy individuals be behind funding World Socialism (i..e, Communism)? The answer to that ultimately leads to Bible prophecy about the end. What is the 1st beast of Revelation 13:1 that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns; what's that about? It is about the idea of a "one world government", a globalist kingdom, under their coming false-Messiah. Thus the ideals of World Communism is nothing but a tool used by Satan's host, of which include wealthy and very powerful individuals in the world, to help bring all nations into a future beast kingdom, or as they have called it, "a one world government."
I don't how much this has to do with Communism, but rather capitalists wanting captive markets.

Well, one theory has capitalists funding the Bolsheviks to eliminate another real competitor at the time.
 

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The main reason for "snooty attitude" against Americans comes from Communist propaganda in Europe. I know, I've been all over Europe when stationed in the U.S military. Probably the biggest snobs against Americans that I ran into was in London. You can have it. But the peoples outside of London in the rural areas were just like being at home in the U.S.

The Communists are strong in all nations in western Europe, not just Eastern Europe.

When I was in Spain, on the Communist's May Day celebrations, if they saw any car with tourist license plates on it, they demolished it, some of them turning the cars over and setting them on fire. They rioted in the streets.

Spain historically has had a terrible history with Communism. In 1936 a Communist government was elected (supposedly) in Madrid, and the Spanish Communist leaders began working against Spain's royals and the Catholic Church. The Spanish Communist government was called a Republic, and was supported by Joseph Stalin in Moscow, Russia. Spanish military General Francisco Franco was a strong supporter of Spain's royal family, and the Church, so the leaders had assigned him to a post in Morocco, Africa, out of the way they thought. He balked, and formed an army and made an alliance with Fascists Mussolini and Hitler, who sent him military aid. Hitler and Mussolini were strong anti-Communists.

Thus the Spanish Civil War was actually a battle between World Communism and the Free nations (regardless that Hitler and Mussolini as Fascists were involved. And NO, I in no way support those like Hitler and Mussolini). The reality is that if Franco had not gotten support from the Fascists, Spain today would be a Communist nation like Cuba, or Vietnam, or North Korea, right smack in the backyard of Free western Europe. American Leftists like Ernest Hemingway volunteered to go to Spain then, and supported the Spanish Republican Communists, of which he wrote his novel about those Communists in his book For Whom The Bell Tolls.

In Italy, there have been several assassination attempts on Catholic popes by the Communists.

Per ex-KGB colonel Golitsyn that defected to the United States in the 1960's, in his 1984 book New Lies For Old, he said the Russian Communist's long range strategy for Europe was a one-Socialist Europe from the Russian Ural mountains to the Atlantic ocean. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) still stands in their way of accomplishing that. But the creation of the European Union was a good start towards Communist control of western Europe. This is most likely why after the Communists allowed the Berlin Wall to come down, Eastern European nations started petitioning to join NATO. This is actually what one of today's battles between Communist Russia and Ukraine and Georgia is about. Ukraine and Georgia want to join NATO. With both of those countries on Russia's southern border, Russia has moved in tanks and troops to show those nations that Russia still owns and controls them. Ex-Georgetown history professor Carrol Quigley in his 1960's book Tragedy and Hope, revealed that after WWII, Communist Russia and the U.S. and its allies made an agreement about border nations around the Soviet Union, that those nations (like Georgia, Ukraine, etc.) would serve as "shadow" states isolating Russia from the Free nations.

Thus we, the people of the United States, still have a duty to help the Free nations defend themselves from World Communism. The new F-35 Lightening fighter built by Lockheed is given to each nation in the NATO alliance, and the Communists don't have anything that even comes close to it. It's too bad things like that are still needed, since Leftists love to push the lie that World Communism is now dead, when it definitely is not dead.
I don't think Communist Spain surrounded by western Europe would have lasted.
 

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I don't how much this has to do with Communism, but rather capitalists wanting captive markets.

Well, one theory has capitalists funding the Bolsheviks to eliminate another real competitor at the time.

Since you try to bring in the theory of Capitalism, that shows you don't understand what Communism is about any more than you do about Capitalism. Sorry to be blunt, but that's simply the truth. The Communists use the idea of Capitalism as one of the main taboos they claim to fight against. But the hard reality is that Capitalists actually started and funded Communism-Socialism. But what KIND of Capitalists? That's what you should ask...

Remember what Apostle Paul said...

Eph 6:11-12
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
KJV

These Capitalists I speak of follow a certain one that's like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. It is Satan's head leader over this world. Aren't you familiar with the OCCULT history of the secret initiate fraternities, like the Masonic Lodge, the Rosicrucians, the Order of the Golden Dawn, the Theosophical Order, the Order of Hermes Trismegistus, etc? I've see documentation of Europe's Grand Orient meetings going back to the 1930's that involved at least twelve initiate fraternities in Europe, the Masonic Lodge being only one of them.

Their goal - "one world government" (their term, not mine).

And that is what Lord Jesus was showing us that is coming at the end of this world per the 'ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns' beast world kingdom that the "dragon" will be given power over for forty two months at the end (Revelation 13).
 

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I don't think Communist Spain surrounded by western Europe would have lasted.

Too late. All of today's Europe are under World-Socialism. And like Lenin had said, "Socialism is Communism."

With Britain pulling out of the EU through Brexit, looks like they may know what's up.

In the 1984 book New Lies For Old, by ex-KGB colonel Anitoliy Golitsyn, who defected to the U.S. back in the 1960's, He said the Soviets long-range strategy was for a one-Socialist Europe, from the Urals to the Atlantic. They are pretty much there, except Brexit caused a temporary blow.

When I was in the USAF stationed at Torrejon AB, Spain, the Communists on their May Day celebration would look for American cars with tourist license plates, and turn them over, burning some of them. That was part of their celebration. Most of the young people I spoke with hated the Christian Church in Spain, and were pretty much hardline Socialists (which means hidden followers of Communism, whether they knew it or not). On those days we were told to not wear our uniform off base. U.S. base housing for Torrejon AB was about 19 mi. north of Torrejon towards Madrid. U.S. Airmen that lived there would simply leave the base wearing their uniform to go home, but not on those days of the Commie celebrations and marches all over Spain.
 
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