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Here’s a comment from Snopes

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The California Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum (ESMC), which schools can voluntarily adopt or not, suggests that students participate in a “community chant” that includes references to “tezkatlipoka” and “huitzilopochtli,” which are translated as “self reflection” and “the will to act,” respectively. Some historical accounts describe those words as the names of gods to whom the Aztecs carried out human sacrifices. However...
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Tezkatlipoca and huitzilopochtli are presented in the community chant not as gods of human sacrifice, but as the names of broad indigenous concepts that teach students self-reflection and action. Moreover, the ESMC does not contain references to, or advocate for, a “countergenocide” against white Christians.
 

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Here’s a comment from Snopes

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The California Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum (ESMC), which schools can voluntarily adopt or not, suggests that students participate in a “community chant” that includes references to “tezkatlipoka” and “huitzilopochtli,” which are translated as “self reflection” and “the will to act,” respectively. Some historical accounts describe those words as the names of gods to whom the Aztecs carried out human sacrifices. However...
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Tezkatlipoca and huitzilopochtli are presented in the community chant not as gods of human sacrifice, but as the names of broad indigenous concepts that teach students self-reflection and action. Moreover, the ESMC does not contain references to, or advocate for, a “countergenocide” against white Christians.

You aren't buying that are you?
 

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Did anyone google the names tezkatlipoka (god of the Great Bear constellation and of the night sky) and huitzilopochtli (Aztec sun and war god)? Those are the first things that come up. I wouldn't trust Snopes anymore since they have given false information over the past few years and lean far left trying to influence people into their way of thinking.

The "chant" that students are forced to do are TO those false gods. The bible warns us of praying to anyone and chanting TO someone is praying.
 

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Did anyone google the names tezkatlipoka (god of the Great Bear constellation and of the night sky) and huitzilopochtli (Aztec sun and war god)? Those are the first things that come up. I wouldn't trust Snopes anymore since they have given false information over the past few years and lean far left trying to influence people into their way of thinking.

The "chant" that students are forced to do are TO those false gods. The bible warns us of praying to anyone and chanting TO someone is praying.
Snopes was kind of neat around 2007, of course now they are bias political fact spinners.
 

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As they note, these were worshipped as gods. But the curriculum seems to use them to represent ideals. That is a problem, but the problem isn't having students pray to a pagan god. First, if it's intended to be part of looking at the Aztecs, it is probably a misrepresentation of actual Aztec practice. If the intent is ethnic studies, that refers to current people. There has been a movement in Mexico to appropriate Aztec symbols, though presumably not the actual practice of the Aztec religion. It's that kind of appropriation of symbols that the chant represents. If the chant comes from an actual current ethnic group, it might be an interesting example of how that kind of modern reappropriation of symbols is done. If it's something the currulum writers made up to represent their own new agey views, I have a problem with it. But not because it's practicing the Aztec religion. As I've only seen what amount to headlines, I can't really judge the proposed curriculum. I can only be suspicious.
 
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Snopes was kind of neat around 2007, of course now they are bias political fact spinners.

Yeah, they used to be trustworthy but not anymore!
 

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Sorry you’s are going through that :(
 

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Did anyone google the names tezkatlipoka (god of the Great Bear constellation and of the night sky) and huitzilopochtli (Aztec sun and war god)? Those are the first things that come up. I wouldn't trust Snopes anymore since they have given false information over the past few years and lean far left trying to influence people into their way of thinking.

The "chant" that students are forced to do are TO those false gods. The bible warns us of praying to anyone and chanting TO someone is praying.
What kind of false information?
 

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With Newsom in charge, things can only get worse in California!
 

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Mostly political oriented where they push their opinion instead of fact.
Huh. I always hoped Snopes was a place where we could find out the truth about things.
 
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