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  1. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Faith is a gift God gives to the elect. And withholds from the reprobate.
  2. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    At the judgment, two groups stand before God. The sheep Jesus died for. And the goats you say he died for, putting words into Jesus' mouth. God saves the sheep. He sends the goats, you say he died for, to hell. Who are you to rewrite scripture? “And before him shall be gathered all nations [the...
  3. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Jesus said so in John 10. Prove he died for the goats using his words in the same passage. Or anywhere else for that matter.
  4. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Again, stacking the deck. Ignoring that Christ died for his sheep only. And not the goats you claim he did.
  5. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    I can't recall contradicting myself. Can you copy and paste it?
  6. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    I don't remember. Maybe you didn't grasp what I said.
  7. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    The point is Jesus limited his death to the sheep. Forever. Prove he said he died for the goats, the only other contrasted group.
  8. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    If you cannot grasp what I say, maybe more study is necessary.
  9. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Card sharks do the same. They stack the deck.
  10. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Where does he say he died for the goats? He only mentions them as lost in the judgment.
  11. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    You have sheep and goats at the end of the world. Jesus died only for the sheep. You tell the goats he died for them also, but that is a lie. Of the two thieves on the crosses, one was his sheep and saved. The other is a reprobate goat. How do you account for the goats Jesus omitted from the...
  12. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Why does John 10 matter? Jesus saying He died for his sheep places limits on whom he died for in the entire bible. His Sheep.
  13. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    But you cannot prove he said he died for anyone other than His sheep.
  14. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    Prove it does not. That's all I'm asking from you.
  15. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    You cannot refute Jesus. He spells out the problem with Pelagianism clearly.
  16. 1689Dave

    The Doctrine of Limited Atonement Now in a Debate Approved Area.

    John 10 shows that Jesus did not die for the Pharisees in his audience and that is why they did not believe. “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” John 10:11 (KJV 1900) “But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.” John 10:26...
  17. 1689Dave

    Interactive Religion?

    Are you questioning God? Fat chance of getting anywhere but hell with that.
  18. 1689Dave

    How does religion, any religion, explain

    Job, the oldest book in the Bible mentions them as Leviathan. The Six Days of Creation: What if everything you see in the world around you is God's eternal decree made visible by his creation of time, space and matter? In Hebrews 11:3 the writer says; “By faith, we understand that the worlds...
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