Welcome to Christianity Haven, thank you for visiting! If you have not already, we invite you to create an account and join in on the many discussions we have!
Please be aware that when registering you must not register while using a VPN. Any registrations made using a VPN will be rejected.
Additionally, registration emails are not being sent out which is an issue that is being worked on. Your registration may go into an approval queue for admin approval. We work to send manual emails to the email on file, so please ensure the email you use is one you can readily access!
G40
ἅγιος
hágios; fem. hagía, neut. hágion (G39), adj. from hágos (n.f.), any matter of religious awe, expiation, sacrifice. Holy, set apart, sanctified, consecrated, saint. It has a common root, hág-, with hagnós (G53), chaste, pure. Its fundamental idea is separation, consecration, devotion...
It is confusing how sometimes a word is literal and sometimes it is not and how whole systems of dogma can hang off taking a word literally and then we have things like "hate" being interpreted away altogether with "Jesus would never ask anyone to hate" when in this passage Jesus clearly does...
But it does say "hate". That is not a mistaken translation. The words in Greek are:
εἴ τις ἔρχεται πρός με καὶ οὐ μισεῖ τὸν πατέρα ἑαυτοῦ καὶ τὴν μητέρα καὶ τὴν γυναῖκα καὶ τὰ τέκνα καὶ τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς καὶ τὰς ἀδελφάς, ἔτι τε καὶ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ψυχὴν, οὐ δύναται μοι...
I agree that God's love for us is unfathomably deep and incomprehensibly great. It is our love for God that is in question in the passage. The call is to love God with all one's heart, mind, soul, and strength. All of it. So I wonder if anybody does that.
I agree, some do love very deeply and...
I see your line of thought and agree with it but what the Lord said isn't "you might need to follow me even if that means your family will feel abandoned and hated and you may yourself feel hated because following me involves so much self denial". HIs words do not take that form he is reported...
The Lord offered a prayer for his disciples which contains these words and I wondered how they apply to Christians today
John 17:14-20 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them. For they are not of the world, just as I, too, am not of the world. 15 I am not praying that you...
Sometimes the Lord said some strange things that require serious thought. One such saying is this:
Luke 14:25-33 Now great crowds traveled with him. And turning around, he said to them: 26 "If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers...
There's something that the Lord said that deserves some attention; most Christians think that everything that Jesus said deserves attention but some things have more impact than others and some make a stronger call on how Christians ought to live than others. So here is the quote
Matthew...
The topic is Communion of the saints and the prayers of the saints are offered to God by the angels and by the 24 elders as part of their worship of God. The correlation is obvious; the saints pray and those in heaven offer the saints' prayers to God. Those in heaven include the 24 elders, the...
I offer not theory about who the 24 elders are except that they are not God nor Jesus. Prayers are in their bowls held in their hands and offered to God. Make of it what you will. The passage is still there after any and every explanation is turned to it to make it mean whatever the explainer wants.