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I didn't ignore the words at all. I went verse by verse through the words, showing what is is.

Is means is. I shared the literal meaning of the passages when is means is. Our discussion is circular now that you are attempting to redefine what is is.

Literal options: The bread, made with whatever ingredients, is what Jesus body is composed of. The literal "is." Literal options: Jesus blood is actually wine. Literal: Jesus body has the composition of bread. Literal: The cup, not what is in it, is the new covenant. The wine is the physical...

If we take the word of God literally, regarding communion, either the bread becomes human flesh or Jesus body was bread, not human flesh. And the wine becomes human blood or Jesus blood was wine. That is the literal interpretation of "is." Anything else cannot be a literal interpretation of...

Again, thank you for your condescension.

Thanks for your condescension.

So, Jesus body was made of bread and his blood was actually wine. Simple. Jesus was the original dough boy. [emoji16]

This seems perfectly fit with the Baptist tradition.

Sounds good. I was just replying to a new voice in the thread. My apologies.

I don't see the practical difference. The bread is Jesus actual flesh and the wine is Jesus actual blood. It seems to be practically the same thing, just dressed up in different phraseology.

As I said. I'm bowing out. Your method of explanation has not been helpful. I still have no idea how your conception of real presence is any different from the Roman Catholic Church. Moreso, I don't see your argument being made in the text of scripture. There has been enough dialogue now. I...

So you hold the Roman Catholic Church position. The elements are the real flesh and real blood of Jesus. I accept you choose that position. But, I suspect you don't call that position "real presence" even though that would be the very essence of real presence. I'm sorry you cannot teach me the...

I read the words in the text. Either it is the actual physical body and blood of Jesus or it's symbolic and to be remembered. Those are the two options. Which option of those two choices do you accept? If you have a third option, show how the third option is taught in the text. If you cannot...

Josiah, I have read every post in this thread. I do not follow the concept of real presence. I see that either the elements are the actual body and blood of Jesus or they symbolize it. Those seem to be the only two viable options from the text. Some extra presence beyond the reality that Jesus...

Albion, you say "could be." This suggests you are speculating. Is that what you are doing? Is there no clear teaching in the Bible regarding the concept of real presence? I can see someone being extremely literal, in which case the bread and wine become real flesh and real blood from Jesus human...

I'm sorry. I don't grasp your nuance.

Thank you. I don't understand how you jump to the conclusion of your last paragraph. It seems to me that it's either real body and real blood in the elements or it's not. It can not be some middle ground. If you think the idea that the bread is really Jesus body and the wine is really Jesus...

What is your definition of an "extreme Calvinist?" Is it someone who holds to the five tenets of Calvinism as expressed at the Synod of Dort? https://www.monergism.com/five-points-calvinism-ebook-0 Baptist's who hold to OSAS are mixed between Arminian tenets and Calvinists tenets as I explained...

Are you saying that all Christians from the Last Supper until the Reformer, Zwingli, were Roman Catholic believers who believed they were eating the real flesh and drinking the real blood of Jesus in communion? Did the disciples in the upper room believe they were eating Jesus actual flesh and...

But, Albion, is not Christ, in some way, not really present in our lives, regardless of whether we are partaking of the Lord's Supper? Baptist's believe Jesus is present with them as they remember his atoning sacrifice and what the bread and juice represent. Baptist's just don't treat the bread...