Jesus will save you if you.... ???

Lamb · 2026-09-17T11:21:21-0400

fuddy said:
"If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross. For whoever would find his life would lose it; and whoever would lose his life for My sake, and the sake of the Gospel, would find it."

And then there's Romans 2:7.

So, according to Jesus, more than mere belief if required, if we seek to gain eternal life?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16

Frankj said:
From my way of understanding it does require more than just belief, it requires absolute dedication of one's life to that belief.

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16

tango said:
James makes mention of belief not being enough. The demons believe in God.

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16

The belief in that verse is the one that refers to faith in the Savior...and that's enough for eternal life. Works come because we have belief, not to supply or add on.

Frankj · 2026-09-17T16:43:49-0400

Lamb said:
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John3:16

The belief in that verse is the one that refers to faith in the Savior...and that's enough for eternal life. Works come because we have belief, not to supply or add on.

To me the first commandment means that we are to put nothing ahead of God.

Nothing!

If we do that we have put that believe in him from John3:16 in second place or an even lesser place even if it is just for a little while so we can watch Netflix or something for our entertainment.

But maybe I'm wrong, maybe he doesn't care all that much and sees the Sunday morning Christian who pursues sinful activity the rest of the time the same way as the totally devout one so it really doesn't matter what we make more important than him.

fuddy · 2026-09-17T21:13:54-0400

As tango said, the demons believe in God, but they don't TRUST in God. It seems belief and trust are not synonymous words in scripture. So belief would be the seed, and trust would be belief's fruit.

tango · 2026-09-17T23:29:12-0400

Lamb said:
The belief in that verse is the one that refers to faith in the Savior...and that's enough for eternal life. Works come because we have belief, not to supply or add on.

This seems like something that could go round and round in circles forever.

If we truly believe our lives will reflect it. Hence we have faith and works. James said that faith without works is dead - if someone has no works we might question whether they truly believe.

The question about what exactly "believeth in him" actually means seems pretty key here. In the context of your post, what exactly does "faith in the Savior" actually mean?

The demons believe in one God and believe in Jesus but they are condemned.

Jesus will save you if you.... ???

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