Lucian Hodoboc
Well-known member
- Joined
- Jan 1, 2019
- Messages
- 1,405
- Location
- Eastern Europe
- Gender
- Male
- Religious Affiliation
- Theist
- Political Affiliation
- Conservative
- Marital Status
- Single
- Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
- No
What Russia gets under Trump's proposal
- "De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.
- "De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
- A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.
- The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.
- Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial sectors.
What Ukraine gets under Trump's proposal
- "A robust security guarantee" involving an ad hoc group of European countries and potentially also like-minded non-European countries. The document is vague in terms of how this peacekeeping operation would function and does not mention any U.S. participation.
- The return of the small part of Kharkiv oblast Russia has occupied.
- Unimpeded passage of the Dnieper River, which runs along the front line in parts of southern Ukraine.
- Compensation and assistance for rebuilding, though the document does not say where the funding will come from.
Other elements of the plan
- The Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant — the largest such facility in Europe — will be considered as Ukrainian territory but operated by the U.S., with electricity supplied to both Ukraine and Russia.
- The document references the U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal, which Trump has said will be signed on Thursday.
Trump's masterplan for ending the war "in 24 hours" (as he bragged all throughout his campaign) was to give the conquered Ukrainian territories to Russia, reject Ukraine's right to ever join NATO, and also get Ukraine's minerals for America. In exchange: Ukraine's security will be guaranteed by European countries with no mention of U.S. participation.
Truly "the art of the deal", ladies and gentlemen! Trump has the audacity to state that Ukraine started the war, that the war would have never started if he had been president instead of Biden, and that, had he been in Zelenskyy's shoes, he would have negotiated with Putin and avoided the war. How? Well, according to this "peace plan", it seems that he would have simply given Putin whatever territories he wanted and agreed to his demands regarding NATO.
This is the president you voted for: a coward who supports the idea that might makes right, that the strong should be allowed to do whatever they want and that the weak should never stand up to bullies. If you're a powerful country, Trump thinks that you should be allowed to attack weaker countries because they "don't have the cards", and if they try to defend themselves, they're "gambling with WW3". You, Americans, are lucky that America has nukes and no one would ever consider attacking you because, otherwise, Trump would definitely give the invading country American territories just to negotiate peace.