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@Lamb I would argue that, rather than them not having anything substantial on Trump, that they too are on the list, and did not publish for that reason
Or maybe were the only ones on that list?

Keep in mind that many, many powerful people had dealings with Epstein that were totally unrelated to what took place on that Island of his, the one the FBI managed to strip of all evidence including films and papers and such shortly after his arrest both before and after his death.

Now on to the Diddy list? That should be interesting too, if ever made fully available, but involving a different category of influential people.
 

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I'm a (European) conservative myself. But get real, man. American Republicans are not all saints. You just made the argument that only democrats are capable of great evil. Republicans are people too dude (some are evil, some are not)
 

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@Frankj

I'm a (European) conservative myself. But get real, man. American Republicans are not all saints. You just made the argument that only democrats are capable of great evil. Republicans are people too dude (some are evil, some are not)
OK, maybe I worded it poorly but I didn't mean to imply the only ones on that list were Democrats, just that it was looking at Trump alone and not all Democrats and Republicans collectively.

IMO, most Republicans are no different in basic attitudes and philosophies than Democrats (two sides of the same coin as such) and just argue about what should be emphasized at any given time and and who should be in charge of instituting it against the people while they're serving their own invisible elite masters.

Trump is equally hated by all (except those electing him) because he isn't part of the coin and represents something very different that threatens the existing power structure of the ruling class.

It's the way I see it, others will obviously see it differently (along with to where it will end up leading us).

But nobody really cares the slightest whit what I think anyway, so it's nothing but another comment with no political importance at all.
 

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OK, maybe I worded it poorly but I didn't mean to imply the only ones on that list were Democrats, just that it was looking at Trump alone and not all Democrats and Republicans collectively.

IMO, most Republicans are no different in basic attitudes and philosophies than Democrats (two sides of the same coin as such) and just argue about what should be emphasized at any given time and and who should be in charge of instituting it against the people while they're serving their own invisible elite masters.

Trump is equally hated by all (except those electing him) because he isn't part of the coin and represents something very different that threatens the existing power structure of the ruling class.

It's the way I see it, others will obviously see it differently (along with to where it will end up leading us).

But nobody really cares the slightest whit what I think anyway, so it's nothing but another comment with no political importance at all.
Trump threatens the structure of the ruling class? You mean like how Trump threatens the independence of Canada against their popular choice? :unsure: :D
 

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Trump threatens the structure of the ruling class? You mean like how Trump threatens the independence of Canada against their popular choice? :unsure: :D
That's a bit of a diversion to a different subject, isn't it?
 

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I really think Trump is mainly trying to distract people. Remember, he's known for the Art of the Deal, and so he's got something else in mind, and this just gets people to focus on something else so they can't complain about his real plans ;)

This is really it, Trump knows how to hit 'buttons' to cause reactions, and his purpose may not always be obvious.

I think Trump is doing a great job so far, focusing immediately on getting rid of much of the government fraud and Leftist-leaning hidden operations of Communists that have crept into the U.S. government. Even Obama tried to claim that the U.S. never was a Christian nation; his father was a Communist.
 

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One other thing that came to mind is that Trump is highly aware that there are groups that want him dead. He's working hard and fast to get things done just in case he gets assassinated. That's dedication to his country.
 

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One other thing that came to mind is that Trump is highly aware that there are groups that want him dead. He's working hard and fast to get things done just in case he gets assassinated. That's dedication to his country.
And those groups aren't limited to America by any means.
 

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No wonder the U.S. is in the mess it's in today, because of the Leftist-Liberals that can neither tell their left hand from their right. Go TRUMP! Be a Tyrant to the LEFT!

And if any Communist doesn't like what Trump is doing, then you can always leave the U.S. and go countries like Russia, Red China, and North Korea where you will be very welcome!
 

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No wonder the U.S. is in the mess it's in today, because of the Leftist-Liberals that can neither tell their left hand from their right. Go TRUMP! Be a Tyrant to the LEFT!

And if any Communist doesn't like what Trump is doing, then you can always leave the U.S. and go countries like Russia, Red China, and North Korea where you will be very welcome!
Actually they'd probably be more welcome in Cuba than those countries as long as they brought their own electricity with them (for real, as requested by the Cuban government since their electric system has failed).

But seriously, most western communists and socialists aren't wanted in the actual communist countries for anything other than their propaganda value since they are a drain on those societies, societies that desperately need producers and usually ends up relying in one way or another on Capitalist western countries for their support.

Simply put, there is a basic divide in thinking about how they perceive the state of the world around them and how they think it should be instead. This thinking has been around for a long time, it was the subject of Fritz Lang's classic Metropolis a hundred years ago, something still quite worthy of watching as a study the leftist view of things and how they saw things developing at that time compared to how they view it developing today after a hundred years of 'progress'.

Eventually, Jesus will return and all will be different than it is now, what that will actually be like lies in a future I cannot visit even in my dreams.

But I doubt it will resemble our current world very much, and I doubt anyone will think they can improve on it.
 

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Actually they'd probably be more welcome in Cuba than those countries as long as they brought their own electricity with them (for real, as requested by the Cuban government since their electric system has failed).

But seriously, most western communists and socialists aren't wanted in the actual communist countries for anything other than their propaganda value since they are a drain on those societies, societies that desperately need producers and usually ends up relying in one way or another on Capitalist western countries for their support.

Simply put, there is a basic divide in thinking about how they perceive the state of the world around them and how they think it should be instead. This thinking has been around for a long time, it was the subject of Fritz Lang's classic Metropolis a hundred years ago, something still quite worthy of watching as a study the leftist view of things and how they saw things developing at that time compared to how they view it developing today after a hundred years of 'progress'.

Eventually, Jesus will return and all will be different than it is now, what that will actually be like lies in a future I cannot visit even in my dreams.

But I doubt it will resemble our current world very much, and I doubt anyone will think they can improve on it.

Yes, I realize that. They live in the FREE nations for the purpose of spreading Communist propaganda, but more so because of the freedoms and opportunities which the Communist nations don't have.

I highly recommend reading the book by Anatoliy Golitsyn called New Lies For Old written in 1984. He was an ex-KGB colonel that defected to the U.S. back in the 1960's. He revealed that the Soviet Communists are actually working a long-range disinformation strategy against the West, and that if it was time for the 3rd Phase of their strategy, they might allow the Berlin Wall to come down. So Golitsyn predicted that at least back to 1984 when his book was published after the U.S. State Department OK'd him to release his info. In his book he also said that long-range Communist plan included making a one-Socialist Europe from the Urals to the Atlantic. So basically, world Communist strategy is NOT dead, and Russia is only playin' possum.

Ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist is another must read. Skousen listed 45 long-range Soviet Communist strategy points designed for takeover of the United States of America. Many of those points have already come to pass, and can be seen at work within the U.S. and its NATO allies. Some are in process today.

Thus Soviet Communism is definitely NOT dead today. They are simply laying down temporarily as a part of their long-range disinformation strategy. In Georgetown University history professor Carrol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope, he said "the establishment" often works with Communism, and has no problem doing so. Quigley himself was an "insider", and said he was allowed to preview their 'secret history' for two years. He said he had no problem with the movement, only that he disagreed with them that it should remain secret. Quigley had to sue his book publisher because they destroyed the book's printing plates and stopped printing it. Quigley then said his book must have said something "the establishment" didn't want known. Quigley was Bill Clinton's history professor at Georgetown, and Clinton endorsed Quigley in his inauguration speech.

Quigley's book lays out the real history of Cecil Rhodes group of Britain that are behind the Rhodes scholarship program (called the Round Table Group, the U.S. version of it called The Council on Foreign Relations or CFR). Bill Clinton himself was a Rhodes scholar, and attended Oxford University. I used to think being a Rhodes scholar meant one was exceptionally intelligent, and thus chosen for that reason, but no, the Rhodes program has little to do with that. Quigley revealed the Rhodes scholarship program is a design by the students of Cecil Rhodes to shape political leaders in their plans for a "one world government". This is why Rhodes scholars like Bill Clinton would be chosen, and why he would push many anti-U.S. sovereignty policies, even giving away the U.S. built Panama Canal which would be run by Chinese Communist front companies, an act first proposed by Jimmy Carter who also was an "insider" with Zbigneiw Brzezinski working as leaders behind the Tri-Lateral Commission, a globalist think-tank towards a plan for the tri-part one world government.
 
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