What is our responsibility in gaining spiritual growth?

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God's side in our spiritual growth (Peter's statement):

1Pe 5:10 And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.
1Pe 5:11 To him be the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Our responsibility for spiritual growth (Peter's command):

2Pe 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

How can we grow by fulfilling Peter's command?
 

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God's side in our spiritual growth (Peter's statement):

1Pe 5:10 And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.
1Pe 5:11 To him be the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Our responsibility for spiritual growth (Peter's command):

2Pe 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

How can we grow by fulfilling Peter's command?

As the verse says, it's God's responsibility to grow us. He gives us faith to believe. We believe. He waters us, we are baptized. He grows us, we grow. If we turn away from faith, then we lose all that He gave us. If He turns us back, we have it all again.

What can WE do to grow? We realize as believers that God is working in us and we cling to the cross and to His word. His word will never return to Him empty.
 

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As the verse says, it's God's responsibility to grow us. He gives us faith to believe. We believe. He waters us, we are baptized. He grows us, we grow. If we turn away from faith, then we lose all that He gave us. If He turns us back, we have it all again.

What can WE do to grow? We realize as believers that God is working in us and we cling to the cross and to His word. His word will never return to Him empty.
Yes, you are right that God enables us to grow. However, the other verse by the same Peter has a command for us to grow. You can look at Colossians 3, which says in verse 1 that Jesus' resurrection is the basis for our growth, but the rest of the verses in that whole chapter are a large set of commands to put off the old sinful nature and put on the new nature. My question stands. How can we do that action? God empowers us, but we also have a responsibility.
 

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Just to inject my thinking into the subject, about discussing the subject, and avoiding throwing scripture back and forth at each other the way enemy soldiers throw spears at each other, (everyone here seems to already have a decent understanding of it to start with):

We all believe -or should- in God, his presence on earth as a Man born of woman, and his crucifixion as the perfect sacrifice to perfectly pay the wages of sin for us so we can be made sin free at judgment. We should believe in God present in us as the Holy Spirit that gives a direct and personal relationship with God.

And now most importantly, we should recognize that we are not what God intended us to be back when he created us (Gen 1:1 from my POV), either as people in general or as individual persons, and that if we truly desire to be closer to God and more of what he wants us to be and less of what we nave made ourselves into we must look at ourselves and what is standing in the way of that.

So this becomes the question: How do we do this, how do I do this?

For me it comes down to the wide road and the narrow road, which am I walking at any given moment and why? One thing I know, you cannot walk both roads at once, with one foot on the one and the other foot on the other. I also know that you can't just step from one onto the other as they are divergent paths, not parallel ones.

It is said that when you find you've dug yourself into a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. It's the same with walking the wrong road, the first thing to do is stop walking (which may take some slowing down time first instead of happening instantly).

This, at least for myself, involves acknowledging the barriers I've built up between myself and God and removing them as best as I can one at a time as the Holy Spirit guides my understanding and gives me the power to do it. I do know that you will never be able to perfect yourself on your own, and only through the power of the Holy Spirit can it be done.

So here's a practical, albeit non scriptural, way of doing this. Simply use a paper, chalkboard, whatever you want, and divide it into two sides, one labeled 'narrow path' and the other 'wide path' (or whatever labels you feel appropriate for yourself). For each important activity (to you) you engage in list that activity under one of the two headings. Do this one thing at a time, not all at once which just defeats you with its magnitude before you start.

Now the question is: OK, in real life how do I do this? What real world actions do I take?

This is where discussion can become really diverse with no right or wrong way to go about it readily apparent. Each of us will have something different, but not so different that we cannot talk about our individual experiences and we should always remember that what we do does not have to be something great and mighty but a very simple little thing that is pretty much meaningless. Everything is interconnected and when you change one thing you change all things even if it is so small of a change that you don't realize it, But one thing I can absolutely assure you, if you do nothing nothing will happen.

So what barriers can you find in your life that are actually preventing you from moving closer to God and intensifying your relationship with him?

FWIW only, use anything you find of value and ignore anything you don't.
 

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Yes, you are right that God enables us to grow. However, the other verse by the same Peter has a command for us to grow. You can look at Colossians 3, which says in verse 1 that Jesus' resurrection is the basis for our growth, but the rest of the verses in that whole chapter are a large set of commands to put off the old sinful nature and put on the new nature. My question stands. How can we do that action? God empowers us, but we also have a responsibility.

God also commanded Let there be light and there was light. :)
 

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God also commanded Let there be light and there was light. :)
Sort of leads to some insights into the power of the spoken word, doesn't it?

Particularly considering we were created in his image.
 

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It seems to me that Ephesians 2:8-10 sheds some light on this subject. God saves by grace through faith, which is his gift. Then, he gives us work to do that he has prepared for us to do. The word translated "workmanship" can be compared to an artist's work of art like a painting that he crafts into a beautiful picture:


Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
 

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It seems to me that Ephesians 2:8-10 sheds some light on this subject. God saves by grace through faith, which is his gift. Then, he gives us work to do that he has prepared for us to do. The word translated "workmanship" can be compared to an artist's work of art like a painting that he crafts into a beautiful picture:


Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

I like those verses because it points out specifically who we are, how we became who we are and what we'll do and why. Some people try to bring up the word puppet, but I see it more as being connected to God...we could say in communion with Him as well. It's a beautiful thing and not fearful that I'm doing enough, because, since I'm God's child, it's His will that be done, not mine :)
 

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I like those verses because it points out specifically who we are, how we became who we are and what we'll do and why. Some people try to bring up the word puppet, but I see it more as being connected to God...we could say in communion with Him as well. It's a beautiful thing and not fearful that I'm doing enough, because, since I'm God's child, it's His will that be done, not mine :)
Amen, Lamb!!
 
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