World The Right's Love Affair with Putin - Yes or No?

The Jason · Mar 9, 2025

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‘This is what happens when someone appeases barbarians,’ wrote Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk on X, in response to the new attacks. ’More bombs, more aggression, more victims. Another tragic night in Ukraine.’  

Europe has a right to fear Russia despite whatever disdain that right-wing groups give Zelensky (saying he's a corrupt gangster or whatever). Europe is closer to Russia than the US is. Europe was once practically half-conquered by Russia (The Soviet Union influence over Eastern Europe).

Are people on the right-wing (MAGA or whatever equivalent elsewhere) really looking at things objectively?

Frankj · Mar 9, 2025

The Jason said:
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Europe has a right to fear Russia despite whatever disdain that right-wing groups give Zelensky (saying he's a corrupt gangster or whatever). Europe is closer to Russia than the US is. Europe was once practically half-conquered by Russia (The Soviet Union influence over Eastern Europe).

Are people on the right-wing (MAGA or whatever equivalent elsewhere) really looking at things objectively?

Does not Russia also have a right to fear Europe?

Europe, Ukraine in particular, kept not one provision of the Minsk agreement and Merkel has admitted that it was not meant to be followed but to buy time for a military buildup in Ukraine.

I doubt Russia will accept NATO moving into Ukraine any more than we would accept a Russian military buildup in Cuba (or Mexico or Canada).

We need to stay out of it and let Europe solve its own problems.

prism · Mar 9, 2025

Frankj said:
I doubt Russia will accept NATO moving into Ukraine any more than we would accept a Russian military buildup in Cuba (or Mexico or Canada).

That gives me the 1962 willys, bomb shelters and all (at least Kruschev had a better sense of humor than Putin.).

The Jason · Mar 10, 2025

Frankj said:
Does not Russia also have a right to fear Europe?

Europe, Ukraine in particular, kept not one provision of the Minsk agreement and Merkel has admitted that it was not meant to be followed but to buy time for a military buildup in Ukraine.

I doubt Russia will accept NATO moving into Ukraine any more than we would accept a Russian military buildup in Cuba (or Mexico or Canada).

We need to stay out of it and let Europe solve its own problems.

A lot of weak leaders in Russia not willing to challenge nations breaking the treaty for the 30 some years it was in effect.

Lamb · Mar 10, 2025

I don't see that the right has a love affair with Putin or with Russia. We want an end to the war.

The Jason · Mar 10, 2025

It's only natural nations recovering from The Iron Curtain (Soviet run Eastern Europe) don't want to be buddies with Moscow.

It's just like how Canada and Mexico want to keep a healthy distance from the US.

Lamb · Mar 10, 2025

The Jason said:
It's only natural nations recovering from The Iron Curtain (Soviet run Eastern Europe) don't want to be buddies with Moscow.

It's just like how Canada and Mexico want to keep a healthy distance from the US.

Canada and Mexico can't survive without the US and they know it.

The Jason · Mar 10, 2025

Lamb said:
Canada and Mexico can't survive without the US and they know it.

The US is not a slave-keeper.

Lamb · Mar 11, 2025

The Jason said:
The US is not a slave-keeper.

No, but we expect to be treated fairly by other countries. You know we're being taken advantage of, right?

The Jason · Mar 13, 2025

Lamb said:
No, but we expect to be treated fairly by other countries. You know we're being taken advantage of, right?

America's economy is way bigger than Canada or South Korea or similar nations.

Frankj · Mar 14, 2025

The Jason said:
America's economy is way bigger than Canada or South Korea or similar nations.

That is related to fairness how?

The Jason · Mar 15, 2025

Frankj said:
That is related to fairness how?

Even if it were true, you were right, how would that justify annexing a nation where 90 percent of the population opposes it?

And how can you and others continue to rubber stamp an obvious dementia patient (What is Trump's age, anyhow?).

Frankj · Mar 15, 2025

The Jason said:
Even if it were true, you were right, how would that justify annexing a nation where 90 percent of the population opposes it?

And how can you and others continue to rubber stamp an obvious dementia patient (What is Trump's age, anyhow?).

Why do you assume I'm rubber stamping anything?

And if you accuse Trump of being a dementia patient, you will willingly go before on judgment day and say "Look Lord. look at what I've done in your name?".

The Bible has rather strong suggestions about how we should go about judging and accusing others. We would be a much more civil people on a worldwide basis if everyone would work at keeping this in mind.

SetFree · Mar 15, 2025

Lamb said:
I don't see that the right has a love affair with Putin or with Russia. We want an end to the war.

Once again, on the nail.

Trump's desire for a peaceful result should be what we all want.

Now per God's Word for the 'end', we know the beast system is going to manifest over all nations, and it will involve world peace (though a fake peace). Sane people of the world will support it, because all sane people want peace and prosperity, and not war. The only problem with that, which The LORD warned us about with that future world peace, is that the devil will be behind it, and will seek those of us in Christ who will refuse to bow in worship to him or his image or take his mark. But we all still want world peace.

So regardless of some of the silly sounding things Trump might be pushing, like renaming the Gulf of Mexico, etc., it is most likely that our Heavenly Father is merely using Trump as a step towards that future Revelation world peace beast system, even while Trump believes he is being used by God to promote Christ's future Kingdom.

The Jason · Apr 5, 2025

Frankj said:
Why do you assume I'm rubber stamping anything?

And if you accuse Trump of being a dementia patient, you will willingly go before on judgment day and say "Look Lord. look at what I've done in your name?".

The Bible has rather strong suggestions about how we should go about judging and accusing others. We would be a much more civil people on a worldwide basis if everyone would work at keeping this in mind.

Oh, the poor Trump. I shouldn't never criticize that old man, even when he's demanding Greenland and Canada, against their will.

Frankj · Apr 5, 2025

The Jason said:
Oh, the poor Trump. I shouldn't never criticize that old man, even when he's demanding Greenland and Canada, against their will.

There is a difference between a criticism and an accusation.

You might benefit by learning to discern the difference.

SetFree · Apr 13, 2025

The Jason said:
America's economy is way bigger than Canada or South Korea or similar nations.

Sounds like you've been subjected to Leftist propaganda, which origins is actually from Communist propaganda.

What's the purpose of the NATO organization, and how does it relate to foreign policy between the Free nations?

The Jason · Thursday at 5:23 PM

SetFree said:
Sounds like you've been subjected to Leftist propaganda, which origins is actually from Communist propaganda.

What's the purpose of the NATO organization, and how does it relate to foreign policy between the Free nations?

Because I disagree with Trump, I'm naturally a leftist? There aren't conservative people that don't see Trump's brand of Republicanism as insane?

Case example:

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The chat soon veered from trade to global immigration, prompting Trump to launch into a long-winded tangent. "People that were in jail for horrible -- you know, they release jails, Georgia, from all over the world and release them. Not just South America. The Congo in Africa. Many many people come from the Congo. I don't know what that is, but they came from the Congo," he said.

Frankj said:
There is a difference between a criticism and an accusation.

You might benefit by learning to discern the difference.

How is it not an accusation when it's as clear as day he demanded his will be done?

SetFree · Friday at 7:01 PM

The Jason said:
Because I disagree with Trump, I'm naturally a leftist? There aren't conservative people that don't see Trump's brand of Republicanism as insane?

No, there aren't 'true' conservatives that disagree with what the Trump administration is doing for Americans. Those who disagree and only claim... to be conservative, are just fence riders, and in the Senate and House are often found voting for anti-American Leftist ideals. When the Soviet Communists in the 1950's said they planned to take over one or more political parties of the United States, they were serious about it. Those who are not aware of that likely don't have a clue as to what Socialism really is.

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