Why do you think God allowed the holocaust to happen?

[NathanH83]

Why do you think God allowed it to happen?

 

[atpollard]

Why wouldn’t He?

God allows men to do all sorts of evil … ask the Armenians or the victims of the Khmer Rouge or the Slaves throughout history or the modern victims of human trafficking.

(I guess ultimately because of the rainbow … God promised to restrain Himself and not destroy the whole world again until the very end.)

 

[NathanH83]

And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Revelation 22:10,18-19 - Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 22:10, Revelation 22:18-19 - New King James Version

 

[tango]

And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Revelation 22:10,18-19 - Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 22:10, Revelation 22:18-19 - New King James Version

What has that got to do with the Holocaust?

 

[tango]

Why do you think God allowed it to happen?

I don't know. For some reason he didn't seek my approval before permitting it, so what I think isn't going to change a whole lot.

 

[NathanH83]

What has that got to do with the Holocaust?

When you take things out of the Bible, you get taken out of the Book of Life.

 

[tango]

When you take things out of the Bible, you get taken out of the Book of Life.

John was talking about his own writing, the book of Revelation. At the time he wrote the Revelation there was no such book as "The Bible" so he couldn't possibly have been referring to it.

There's also the small matter that being persecuted on earth has nothing to do with being in the Book of Life.

 

[NathanH83]

John was talking about his own writing, the book of Revelation. At the time he wrote the Revelation there was no such book as "The Bible" so he couldn't possibly have been referring to it.

There's also the small matter that being persecuted on earth has nothing to do with being in the Book of Life.

Actually, there’s a number of places throughout the Bible that has similar warnings, like in Deuteronomy, Psalms, Proverbs, and a few other places it warns not to remove words from the Bible. There’s also plenty of places in the Bible that indicate that God discipled his people for disobedience.

 

[Odë:hgöd]

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What has that got to do with the Holocaust?

.Post No.3 is a Cowbird's egg.
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[Odë:hgöd]

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The best explanation I've found for the Holocaust thus far is located at the link
below.

God In The Holocaust

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[tango]

Actually, there’s a number of places throughout the Bible that has similar warnings, like in Deuteronomy, Psalms, Proverbs, and a few other places it warns not to remove words from the Bible. There’s also plenty of places in the Bible that indicate that God discipled his people for disobedience.

... except that in all those places they can't possibly be referring to "the Bible" because "the Bible" as we know it didn't exist at the time those books were written.

Discipline for disobedience is a different topic.

 

[NathanH83]

Actually, there’s a number of places throughout the Bible that has similar warnings, like in Deuteronomy, Psalms, Proverbs, and a few other places it warns not to remove words from the Bible. There’s also plenty of places in the Bible that indicate that God discipled his people for disobedience.

See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.
Deuteronomy 12:32 - Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 12:32 - New International Version

You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.
Deuteronomy 4:2 - Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 4:2 - New King James Version

Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6 - Bible Gateway passage: Proverbs 30:5-6 - New King James Version


“‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
Jeremiah 8:8 - Bible Gateway passage: Jeremiah 8:8 - New International Version

 

[NathanH83]

... except that in all those places they can't possibly be referring to "the Bible" because "the Bible" as we know it didn't exist at the time those books were written.

Discipline for disobedience is a different topic.

I really don’t know what you’re getting at. The Jews knew what their scriptures were. They knew not to alter and change the holy scrolls.

 

[NathanH83]

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.Post No.3 is a Cowbird's egg.
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Huh?

Post #3 is a scripture verse from Revelation.

What is “cowbird’s egg” supposed to mean? Is that some kind of metaphor where you come from?

 

[tango]

I really don’t know what you’re getting at. The Jews knew what their scriptures were. They knew not to alter and change the holy scrolls.

When each individual scroll was written it was an individual scroll. It wasn't until quite a long time later someone had the idea of putting a bunch of books together and calling it a single book. I really don't know how to make it any clearer.

 

[NathanH83]

When each individual scroll was written it was an individual scroll. It wasn't until quite a long time later someone had the idea of putting a bunch of books together and calling it a single book. I really don't know how to make it any clearer.

Ok. That’s great and all. But the Jews still knew that they weren’t to remove and add words, letters, and numbers from the sacred scrolls.

 

[grumix8]

Men are responsible of themselves evryone makes his or her's decisions it isn't G-d fault, not fair you balme it all on him and aren't thankful for the good things he is has done. No one can judge G-d only G-d judges G-d and were not god's were men. men that sin, kill, eat, and sleep. We are on road to repent and yo don't worry what your enemy they will be judge and justice will be done.

 

[NathanH83]

Men are responsible of themselves evryone makes his or her's decisions it isn't G-d fault, not fair you balme it all on him and aren't thankful for the good things he is has done. No one can judge G-d only G-d judges G-d and were not god's were men. men that sin, kill, eat, and sleep. We are on road to repent and yo don't worry what your enemy they will be judge and justice will be done.

What I mean is why didn’t God intervene?

God saved his people from Haman in the days of Esther.
God saved his people from Pharaoh’s army in the days of Moses and drowned the Egyptian army in the sea.

But in the holocaust during WW2, there was no miraculous deliverance. Why?

Did God abandon his people because they rejected his Son?

 

[tango]

Ok. That’s great and all. But the Jews still knew that they weren’t to remove and add words, letters, and numbers from the sacred scrolls.

Perhaps they were, you just don't get to refer to a single scroll and act as if it refers to some other scroll.

 

[tango]

What I mean is why didn’t God intervene?

God saved his people from Haman in the days of Esther.
God saved his people from Pharaoh’s army in the days of Moses and drowned the Egyptian army in the sea.

But in the holocaust during WW2, there was no miraculous deliverance. Why?

Did God abandon his people because they rejected his Son?

There's often no miraculous deliverance for the persecuted church of today. There was no miraculous deliverance for Stephen in Acts 7 either. What of it?