The end of the world

[Jazzy]

How many times has the world been predicted to end according to Bible prophecy?

Why do some people continue to believe in these predictions despite them not coming true?

 

[Manonfire63]

Nothing new happens under the sun. (Ecclesiastics 1:9-11)


In understanding the Bible, there are layers to things. Layers like in the Atmosphere. On the bottom layer, we may have something physical. On the way up, we have allegories.

The End of the World may be The End of a Matrix of Lies.

8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light

Darkness is lies. Satan was known as the Prince of Darkness, the Lord of Lies. Given a man was lied to, and he believed the lie, for a time, he may have been "In the Dark." A lot of lies could create a Matrix of Lies.

Mankind is like God's Vineyard. He rented it out to some tenant farmers. These Tenant Farmers were teachers of religious law. A teacher of religious law may have shaped how man perceived himself, shaped how man perceives God. This could create a Matrix of Lies.

The Greeks and Romans perceived the world in a particular way. Christianity changed how people perceived. The Aztecs perceived the world a particular way. Christianity changed how they perceived.

Post- World War II, a world has been built by Academics and the Media. This may be a "Secular Humanist" world that was Pro-UN. Is that world coming down?

A lot of people were in Post-Cold War Complacency, going about their life, in their routines. Covid hit. They were disrupted. That may have been a wake up call for something really ugly that is about to happen.

We live in a world where fruit picked in Chile could be canned in Thailand, and the jeans someone wears, the parts of those jeans may have been made in 5 different countries. Given there was a world destabilizing event, like a Great Depression, or something leading to it, where the US Navy could not, for some reason, perform its function of peace keeper of the seas, the world would come to an end.

 

[Lees]

How many times has the world been predicted to end according to Bible prophecy?

Why do some people continue to believe in these predictions despite them not coming true?

Quite a few I'm sure.

We believe it because Bible prophecy is woven throughout the Bible, and is to be believed.

Prophecies concerning 'end time events' or the 'Last days', will occur or be fulfilled only once...at the end. But all the while Satan is busy trying to form the nations to receive his man the antichrist. And at times the conditions described as existing in the end times, seem to exist then, causing some to conclude that the end is near.

It doesn't make them wrong in recognizing certain conditions as end time characteristics. Nor does it mean Bible prophecy can't be trusted just because it didn't happen at that time.

No matter how well Satan has constructed things to set up his kingdom, it is God Who is the final word as to when. In other words, Satan doesn't know the 'when'. He can only have things ready at the right moment to inject his man of sin into power. Thus in every generation, Satan has a man ready. There is a man somewhere today in the world who is Satan's man.

So, these things will come true. The 'when' is up to God alone. But we watch.

Lees

 

[Manonfire63]

The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart; the devout are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. (Isaiah 57:1)

There is your rapture. Was someone of the world? They may have been evil. They may have sat in Church. They may have been evil, loving life and things of this world.

What is the Evil referenced? It may be living through some of the things referenced in Isaiah 57. It may be War, Famine, and Plague in God's Judgement. Nothing new happens under the sun.

 

[Manonfire63]

War, Famine, and Plague are something God has done. Israel and Judah were fallen and wicked Nations. (Ezekiel 16) God's Judgement of War, Famine, and Plague were unleashed on Israel and Judah. (Ezekiel 5:17)(Jeremiah 24:10)

War, Famine, and Plague were in the Old Testament. God sent Prophet Jonah to Nineveh. Nineveh was a city of Assyria. God sent Jonah to warn them that God's Judgement may come. God is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He judges Kings and Nations.

War, Famine, and Plague are in the Book of Revelations. Some of what John was witnessing in his vision was a process. There may be a complete fulfillment of that process on the entire world, which may look like the Book of Daniel. (Daniel 12) Christianity needed to be spread around the World first. Everyone who has access to the internet has access to the Bible. There may have been a process where certain seals were opened. The process may not have come to some sort of conclusion.

Similar to God's Judgement being sent on Israel and Judah, was Eastern Rome or Russia just prior to the Communist Revolution, were they doing something where they were supposedly Christian Nations who had War, Famine, and Plague unleashed on them? I can point someone onto somethings. Something was going wrong. Since the fall of Rome how many Christian Nations have fallen to non-Christians? Such a thing suggests God's Judgement.

 

[tango]

How many times has the world been predicted to end according to Bible prophecy?

Why do some people continue to believe in these predictions despite them not coming true?

How many times has it been accurately predicted according to Bible prophecy? None.
How many times has it been inaccurately predicted according to Bible prophecy? Who knows.

Why do people believe them? Probably for the same reasons people believe the nutjobs in any other field. When Jesus clearly said not even he knows when the second coming is, the chances are it's not hidden in some secret code that we can figure out if only we suspend our disbelief and follow some self-proclaimed profit prophet.

 

[Albion]

Some of the Scriptural indicators of the end being at hand suggested to a few people living in earlier days that the appointed time was very near.

However, there have been many other people who drew similar conclusions about their own lifetimes and, as we know, none of their predictions were correct. As a result, most Christians these days are content not to try to date the end with such specificity.

 

[Lees]

How many times has it been accurately predicted according to Bible prophecy? None.
How many times has it been inaccurately predicted according to Bible prophecy? Who knows.

Why do people believe them? Probably for the same reasons people believe the nutjobs in any other field. When Jesus clearly said not even he knows when the second coming is, the chances are it's not hidden in some secret code that we can figure out if only we suspend our disbelief and follow some self-proclaimed profit prophet.

Are you saying the Bible doesn't accurately predict the end times and end of the world as we know it, and therefore studying prophecy and believing it in the Bible is for nut jobs?

If so, I disagree.

Lees

 

[tango]

Are you saying the Bible doesn't accurately predict the end times and end of the world as we know it, and therefore studying prophecy and believing it in the Bible is for nut jobs?

If so, I disagree.

Lees

Seriously? You took that away from my post?

Jesus said that even he doesn't know the exact time of the end, so it's safe to conclude that any mere mortal who thinks they know is blowing smoke. Let's face it, we're not going to know more about Jesus' return than Jesus, right?

The Bible gives us precisely nothing to date the end. We can see seasons but can't know the day or the hour.

Even knowing seasons is clearly of limited use, given the Thessalonians of nearly 2000 years ago thought it was nigh. The simple reality is that we just don't know exactly when the end will come.

Whenever The End in an eschatological sense may occur, we also have no way of knowing when The End in a personal sense will occur. Even if I could know with absolute certainty that Jesus Christ would come back on June 14 of this year I have no guarantee that I'll still be alive by then.

You'd almost be forgiven for thinking Jesus was onto something with all that stuff about being ready and not knowing when the master will return.

 

[Lees]

Seriously? You took that away from my post?

Jesus said that even he doesn't know the exact time of the end, so it's safe to conclude that any mere mortal who thinks they know is blowing smoke. Let's face it, we're not going to know more about Jesus' return than Jesus, right?

The Bible gives us precisely nothing to date the end. We can see seasons but can't know the day or the hour.

Even knowing seasons is clearly of limited use, given the Thessalonians of nearly 2000 years ago thought it was nigh. The simple reality is that we just don't know exactly when the end will come.

Whenever The End in an eschatological sense may occur, we also have no way of knowing when The End in a personal sense will occur. Even if I could know with absolute certainty that Jesus Christ would come back on June 14 of this year I have no guarantee that I'll still be alive by then.

You'd almost be forgiven for thinking Jesus was onto something with all that stuff about being ready and not knowing when the master will return.

Yes, that appears to me what you said.

Nothing was said in the opening post about the 'exact time'.

The reference in Scripture you refer to is (Matt. 24:36). But, again, does that mean we don't believe and study Bible prophecy? That is what the opening post was asking. "Why do some people continue to believe in these predictions despite them not coming true?"

I believe these prophecies, though they have not yet come true. Do you? Do you believe we as Christians should study these prophecies? Why did God give them? If we can't know...what good are they? Lot of wasted space in the Bible if it is not for us to know.

Actually, Jesus said it is not for His disciples to know the seasons either. (Acts 1:7) Now what?

Consider that Jesus in (Matthew) and (Acts) was during and at the end of His ministry on earth. He then left to be at the right hand of the Father. And guess what? The Father gave Jesus a revelation which Jesus was unaware of before. That is why it's called a revelation. (Rev. 1:1) "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass..."

Thus, just because Jesus didn't know during His earthly ministry, doesn't mean He doesn't know now, as God revealed these things to Him. And He in turn revealed them to John. (Rev. 1:1)

(Rev. 1:3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." Appears that John was expecting the return of Christ...doesn't it?

Again, do you believe the prophecies? How do you believe them if you don't know them or study them?

Lees