"Post-NT" doctrine literature

[popsthebuilder]

Jesus said there is but one way to the Father and that is by me, also was said that those who do not believe in the seath burial and resurrection of Jesus are not saved. As to the death of God it was the physical body that died not God Him self.

"seath"???

Could you explain this.

Burial is a subject I am not certain about, and I think your word above was a typo, causing slight confusion.

Thanks.

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[popsthebuilder]

I am not your enemy and I do agree with you on most things but I do not and cannot accept that Muslims are saved, not for what a few do but rather for thier beliefs and how they view Jesus

I understand.

I am not promoting Muslims or "Islamic" people, or that they are saved as a people.

I am only defending the validity of the Quran which I have read for myself, and do read.

peace friend.

Thank you for the clarification.

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[Imalive]

I understand.

I am not promoting Muslims or "Islamic" people, or that they are saved as a people.

I am only defending the validity of the Quran which I have read for myself, and do read.

peace friend.

Thank you for the clarification.

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There are good things in the Quran because he just copied it from the Bible, but its like rat poison, some is good, some is bad, otherwise they dont eat it. A former muslim said she had no idea all those horrible texts were also in the Quran. The quran even says that Israel is for the Jews and then Allah says We (Trinity).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/planet...at-jesus-is-god-the-truth-will-shock-you/amp/

 

[popsthebuilder]

There are good things in the Quran because he just copied it from the Bible, but its like rat poison, some is good, some is bad, otherwise they dont eat it. A former muslim said she had no idea all those horrible texts were also in the Quran. The quran even says that Israel is for the Jews and then Allah says We (Trinity).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/planet...at-jesus-is-god-the-truth-will-shock-you/amp/

Like all ancient sacred texts; they are meant to be taken in a spiritual and somewhat metaphorical sense.

Not to mention; all throughout it says mercy is best for all.

Every time one sees the word we or our it doesn't mean three people or persons or three separate spirits.

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[ImaginaryDay2]

Those names I listed indeed all reference the Spirit of GOD within the Temple.

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They are not the Names of the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob - God the Father whom we worship, nor His Son, Jesus Christ.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

I understand.

I am not promoting Muslims or "Islamic" people, or that they are saved as a people.

I am only defending the validity of the Quran...

When you say "the validity of the Quran", what do you mean?

 

[popsthebuilder]

They are not the Names of the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob - God the Father whom we worship, nor His Son, Jesus Christ.

I've got news for you;

There is but One Creator GOD; but a multitude of names for GOD Almighty and HIS Christ.

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[popsthebuilder]

When you say "the validity of the Quran", what do you mean?

That it is sacred and truthful, much like our Bible.

(Of course reading the things within parentheses as if not addition to sacred texts, or listening to the opinions of others can skew your perception. There are evidently also terrible translations that manipulate the actual meaning.)

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[tango]

Islam teaches that mercy is best.

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There are pretty major differences between Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.

 

[popsthebuilder]

There are pretty major differences between Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.

I'm sure there are.

I should have said the Quran says mercy is best.

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[Andrew]

I'm sure there are.

I should have said the Quran says mercy is best.

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Im still trying to figure how the Quran rejects the death of Jesus but you say that it does not skip the resurrection, how is resurrection possible if there was no death?

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[popsthebuilder]

Im still trying to figure how the Quran rejects the death of Jesus but you say that it does not skip the resurrection, how is resurrection possible if there was no death?

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The Holy Temple was destroyed and raised again in three days. That doesn't mean the Spirit of GOD, which was the Spirit within Jesus, the Christ of GOD was ever or ever can be killed.

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[Andrew]

The Holy Temple was destroyed and raised again in three days. That doesn't mean the Spirit of GOD, which was the Spirit within Jesus, the Christ of GOD was ever or ever can be killed.

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But Jesus died tho and he went to hell and came back via the resurrection, hung around a bit and was witnessed and then ascended to Heaven, after that came the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Indeed he was raised by God but he still died, the Quran says it wasn't Jesus who died on the cross... who was it then?

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[Lamb]

But Jesus died tho and he went to hell and came back via the resurrection, hung around a bit and was witnessed and then ascended to Heaven, after that came the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Indeed he was raised by God but he still died, the Quran says it wasn't Jesus who died on the cross... who was it then?

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1 Corinthians 15:3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received—that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures

Christ died for our sins. When other religions state otherwise they give a false gospel.

 

[popsthebuilder]

But Jesus died tho and he went to hell and came back via the resurrection, hung around a bit and was witnessed and then ascended to Heaven, after that came the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Indeed he was raised by God but he still died, the Quran says it wasn't Jesus who died on the cross... who was it then?

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Reference the surah please.

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[Andrew]

1 Corinthians 15:3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received—that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures

Christ died for our sins. When other religions state otherwise they give a false gospel.

Right, pops... oh my.. I see he wishes not to condemn islam (no one can btw) I believe he doesnt wish to 'offend' them, but just being 'nice' is not all what scripture teaches

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[Andrew]

Reference the surah please.

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You referenced it earlier, who died on the cross?

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[Imalive]

Reference the surah please.

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https://carm.org/what-does-islam-and-quran-say-about-jesus

 

[popsthebuilder]

https://carm.org/what-does-islam-and-quran-say-about-jesus

I won't be using any links, sorry.

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[Andrew]

https://carm.org/what-does-islam-and-quran-say-about-jesus

smh... imalive you have the wrong version too?

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