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By the way; Crist/Christ/ Christus, Krishna.

They do all reference the same secret beautiful One.

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So many if not all religions point to Christ?

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So many if not all religions point to Christ?

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Many, yes.

I wouldn't say all as I haven't studied the core texts of all, and some I have looked into seem just not right when compared to the truth of actual texts inspired by GOD.

i actually just finished a long post of someone's; in two parts because of length and time.

I left about halfway through thinking wow; this person is speaking profound truth.

Upon completion they had conflated love with greed; showing themselves to be astray regardless of the truth they lead with.

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Many, yes.

I wouldn't say all as I haven't studied the core texts of all, and some I have looked into seem just not right when compared to the truth of actual texts inspired by GOD.

i actually just finished a long post of someone's; in two parts because of length and time.

I left about halfway through thinking wow; this person is speaking profound truth.

Upon completion they had conflated love with greed; showing themselves to be astray regardless of the truth they lead with.

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Interesting. I do believe that religious people in general could be led to Christ but until then they still worship strange gods no? In babylon all people were gathered in one place and in one accord in rebellion against God, every religion since has reflected on that event. What religions today would you recognise as being pagan or heathen? Or are all saved because they all worship a being of light/lucifer (literal translation)?

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Interesting. I do believe that religious people in general could be led to Christ but until then they still worship strange gods no? In babylon all people were gathered in one place and in one accord in rebellion against God, every religion since has reflected on that event. What religions today would you recognise as being pagan or heathen? Or are all saved because they all worship a being of light/lucifer (literal translation)?

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All are sinners by nature. All too have the capacity to know GOD, by nature.

I try my best to not condemn any religion out right; it is my belief that individuals within all nations or ethnicities or tribes of GOD can know of and also know GOD individually regardless of the actions or general misrepresentation of their given inspired texts.

I cannot name any single "religion" that seems wholly good and True.

I believe the Body/ Holy Temple is made up of individuals in which the Christ has chosen to dwell.

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All are sinners by nature. All too have the capacity to know GOD, by nature.

I try my best to not condemn any religion out right; it is my belief that individuals within all nations or ethnicities or tribes of GOD can know of and also know GOD individually regardless of the actions or general misrepresentation of their given inspired texts.

I cannot name any single "religion" that seems wholly good and True.

I believe the Body/ Holy Temple is made up of individuals in which the Christ has chosen to dwell.

peace

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No one here condemns anyone, we pray for them tho. Religion is addicting and very very potent and when a religion becomes hostile the people become hostile which I believe is the case of not all but the majority of muslims and not so much by any other religion... its very dangerous to embrace the hostile attitude and teachings of Islam
 
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No one here condemns anyone, we pray for them tho. Religion is addicting and very very potent and when a religion becomes hostile the people become hostile which I believe is the case of not all but the majority of muslims and not so much by any other religion... its very dangerous to embrace the hostile attitude and teachings of Islam
Islam teaches that mercy is best.

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Islam teaches that mercy is best.
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So does Christianity, what is your definition of 'mercy'?

(Edit: i just posted this verse in another thread...
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Hebrews 8:12
 

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They believe their sins are forgiven and that Jesus had the word and spirit of God but that spirit did not die.

This discussion is on the Quran; not the people who read it.

Sooooo...no.
 

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By the way; Crist/Christ/ Christus, Krishna.

They do all reference the same secret beautiful One.

You're joking. Unequivocally, they do not all reference the One True God.
 

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So does Christianity, what is your definition of 'mercy'?

(Edit: i just posted this verse in another thread...
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Hebrews 8:12
mer·cy

ˈmərsē/

noun

1.

compassion or forgiveness shown toward someone whom it is within one's power to punish or harm.

"the boy was screaming and begging for mercy"

synonyms:leniency,*clemency,*compassion,*grace,*pity,*charity,*forgiveness,*forbearance,*quarter,*humanity;

soft-heartedness,tenderheartedness,kindness,*sympathy,liberality,indulgence,tolerance,generosity,magnanimity,beneficence

"he showed no mercy to the others"



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You're joking. Unequivocally, they do not all reference the One True God.
Those names I listed indeed all reference the Spirit of GOD within the Temple.

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By the way; Crist/Christ/ Christus, Krishna.

They do all reference the same secret beautiful One.

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That's what a hare krishna (we call ppl after their belief in holland, a jehova is a jehovahs witness, but anyways) told me. Years ago we had those orange dresses on every street corner. We also believe in Jesus but we call Him Krishna. I was so confused after the talk I stepped in the wrong bus and stepped out in the other side of town. Then another one tried to sell me his hare krishna book and its 2. You have hare and krishna. i said to him: how cute! Its a couple!
Lol my ex had an old friend who was into some crazy religion. Totally lost the way and he kept saying how dumb my ex was for not understanding 'being'. Anyways after an hour of this babble about being and me adding some dumb jokes to break the ice, my ex said to him: okay but what if you're wrong? What if those beings here in your room are not so friendly and demons? Oh well then I dont want em, he said.
Shall I check it out? said ex and he threw all these demons out of his house.
We have an old song about it. Hare Krishnas on the Dam put in your hand a letter how you can live happy. So to see and if you ask me they aint very happy themselves.
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How do you not understand the the Spirit.....the Holy Spirit of GOD/ the WORD cannot die?


The physical temple can be destroyed though....and even raised back up.....you may have heard of such

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Was there any death on the cross according to Muslim beliefs?
 

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You believe GOD almighty Literally died!?

That defies GOD being immortal and assumes Jesus to have been omnipotent and omniscient.

Both are unscriptural.

I can find the sacred texts if you like.

Can we not discuss these things and learn about one another's position prior to assuming and attacking based on assumption and either fear or pride? Both of which are against the direction of the Way and Truth.

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The path to heaven isn't wide but narrow. You claim that Muslims know Jesus. Do you realize the Jews knew Jesus personally (in the New Testament) and rejected His salvation? Knowing that Jesus existed is not equivalent to saving faith. Rejecting death on the cross rejects the forgiveness won there. They believe in a false gospel and a false Jesus. Please stop promoting a false religion here on the site suggesting that they are believers when they do not believe the truth of the gospel. Their gospel is a lie and leading people to hell.
 

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That's what a hare krishna (we call ppl after their belief in holland, a jehova is a jehovahs witness, but anyways) told me. Years ago we had those orange dresses on every street corner. We also believe in Jesus but we call Him Krishna. I was so confused after the talk I stepped in the wrong bus and stepped out in the other side of town. Then another one tried to sell me his hare krishna book and its 2. You have hare and krishna. i said to him: how cute! Its a couple!
Lol my ex had an old friend who was into some crazy religion. Totally lost the way and he kept saying how dumb my ex was for not understanding 'being'. Anyways after an hour of this babble about being and me adding some dumb jokes to break the ice, my ex said to him: okay but what if you're wrong? What if those beings here in your room are not so friendly and demons? Oh well then I dont want em, he said.
Shall I check it out? said ex and he threw all these demons out of his house.
We have an old song about it. Hare Krishnas on the Dam put in your hand a letter how you can live happy. So to see and if you ask me they aint very happy themselves.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=duVD1zheXnI
I don't know much about the people.

I stick to the core texts for my opinion on the validity of their faith.

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Was there any death on the cross according to Muslim beliefs?
I guess it would depend on who you spoke to and what sect they adhere to and if they are actually devout or not.

As for me; I've explained my opinion in reference to the fact that the Quran states that they killed Him not.



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The path to heaven isn't wide but narrow. You claim that Muslims know Jesus. Do you realize the Jews knew Jesus personally (in the New Testament) and rejected His salvation? Knowing that Jesus existed is not equivalent to saving faith. Rejecting death on the cross rejects the forgiveness won there. They believe in a false gospel and a false Jesus. Please stop promoting a false religion here on the site suggesting that they are believers when they do not believe the truth of the gospel. Their gospel is a lie and leading people to hell.
That is your opinion.

Tell me; will I be banned or kicked for not denying what I know to be true?

The side gate is where the few enter.

The wide path has to do with mainstream Christianity and the whore of Babylon/ the city of gold which is Rome and the ancient rcc. It has little to do with those who are actually submissive to GOD almighty, and everything to do with the knowing hypocrite and the ones who do not enter in nor allow others to enter.

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No Sir;

Most definitely not saying that in any way.

I am speaking only of the core book of Islam which is the Quran.

I do not condemn a whole people for the actions of the few.

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Jesus said there is but one way to the Father and that is by me, also was said that those who do not believe in the seath burial and resurrection of Jesus are not saved. As to the death of God it was the physical body that died not God Him self.
 

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Jesus said there is but one way to the Father and that is by me, also was said that those who do not believe in the seath burial and resurrection of Jesus are not saved. As to the death of God it was the physical body that died not God Him self.
We agree on all points as we generally do friend.

Please do not become my enemy due to honest ignorance.

sincerely Mr. Bill,

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I am not your enemy and I do agree with you on most things but I do not and cannot accept that Muslims are saved, not for what a few do but rather for thier beliefs and how they view Jesus
 
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