• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Embarrassed
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Grumpy
  • Happy
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    Results 1 to 10 of 11

    Christian Theology - Thread: Do you agree or disagree with this?

    1. #1
      Lämmchen's Avatar
      Lämmchen is offline God's Lil Lamb
      Administrator
      Community Team
      53
      Married
      Gloria In Excelsis Deo
       
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      21,251
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      221,120
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (563,346 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      251,716
      Level
      100
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      3.35%
      Rep Power
      1045

      Do you agree or disagree with this?

      I was listening to what a Baptist preacher said today (I don't have a link because I heard it on tv) and he said that God puts us in uncomfortable situations so that He can bless us.

      Do you agree or disagree with that statement?
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus


      1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

    2. #2
      zecryphon_nomdiv's Avatar
      zecryphon_nomdiv is offline Prodigy Member
      47
      Married
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2015
      Posts
      632
      CH Cash
      4,275
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      8,884
      Level
      28
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      36%
      Rep Power
      330
      I disagree. This seems to follow the thinking of the world, that if something bad happens, God is to blame.

      Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

    3. Likes Andrew liked this post
    4. #3
      RichWh1's Avatar
      RichWh1 is offline Prodigy Member
      72
      Single
      Mood:
      Geeky
       
      Join Date
      May 2018
      Location
      Tarpon Springs FL
      Posts
      610
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      2,669
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      4,257
      Level
      20
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      66.09%
      Rep Power
      129

      Do you agree or disagree with this?

      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I was listening to what a Baptist preacher said today (I don't have a link because I heard it on tv) and he said that God puts us in uncomfortable situations so that He can bless us.

      Do you agree or disagree with that statement?
      Sometimes God allows us to be put in uncomfortable positions sometimes to test us and not break us.
      God is faithful, who will not allow man to be tested beyond that which he can bear but with the rest He provides a way of escape (1 Cor. 10:13)
      "Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ Romans 5:1

    5. #4
      Krissy Cakes's Avatar
      Krissy Cakes is offline Expert Member
      28
      Married
      Mood:
      Geeky
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Location
      Idaho
      Posts
      2,964
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      18,211
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      9,783
      Level
      29
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      54.54%
      Rep Power
      211
      I agree




      █ ▇ ▆ ▅ ▄ ▃ ▂▂
      ▂▂ ▃ ▄ ▅ ▆ ▇ █​

    6. #5
      tango's Avatar
      tango is online now Bronze Member
      Valued Contributor
      Married
      ... and you shall live ...
       
      Mood:
      Bemused
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Location
      Elsewhere
      Posts
      8,480
      CH Cash
      3,485
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (35,111,027 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      36,041
      Level
      50
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      37.94%
      Rep Power
      862
      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I was listening to what a Baptist preacher said today (I don't have a link because I heard it on tv) and he said that God puts us in uncomfortable situations so that He can bless us.

      Do you agree or disagree with that statement?
      I'm not sure I agree or disagree in a universal sense. I don't see why God shouldn't put us in a tricky situation so he can show himself through a life lesson in some shape or form. At the same time I wouldn't say that every time we are in a tricky situation it must be because God is trying to teach us something. Sometimes things just happen and we don't have to understand why. I do believe God can use things for good if we allow him to, but I think that's a different perspective on it.
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

    7. #6
      Josiah's Avatar
      Josiah is offline Bronze Member
      Supporting Member
      Married
      Mood:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      9,280
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      124,751
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      94,085
      Level
      72
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      9.9%
      Rep Power
      1092
      It's FAR, FAR too sweeping of a comment. I don't doubt this MAY - at times - happen, but what the preacher said is absolute, universal and continuous. He has gone MUCH too far, IMO


      I have a concern too with the implication that GOD is the source and cause of the "uncomfortable situations." Hum. Yes, we can find ourselves in a bad spot - perhaps because of our own sinfulness and/or stupidity (personal and/or collective) or simply because of the fallenness of the world in which we live, but GOD personally CAUSED, God is the SOURCE and exclusive REASON of it just for me? Hum. Now, God is WITH us (even in the valleys - even if we put ourselves there).... and God desires some good to come of that (eventually.... to someone...) but that doesn't mean He CAUSED it. Especially ALL THE TIME. Universally.


      "Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear nothing because you are with me.... you comfort me." Ah. Doesn't say God created that valley and is the cause of why I'm there.... doesn't say it's ALWAYS the case (24/7) for EVERYONE...and the result in Psalm 23 is comfort (not rescue). We can grow through tough times via the grace and power of God - and we should. But that's not what the preacher said.





      .
      Last edited by Josiah; 01-13-2020 at 09:11 PM.
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

    8. #7
      Particular is offline Apprentice Member
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2019
      Posts
      189
      Country
      Finland
      CH Cash
      902
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      410
      Level
      7
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      33.85%
      Rep Power
      3
      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      I was listening to what a Baptist preacher said today (I don't have a link because I heard it on tv) and he said that God puts us in uncomfortable situations so that He can bless us.

      Do you agree or disagree with that statement?
      God blessed us when he chose to redeem us. Whatever God chooses to do with his children is done for our best and for his glory.

      It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
      ~ Hebrews 12:7-11

    9. Likes RichWh1, atpollard liked this post
    10. #8
      Lämmchen's Avatar
      Lämmchen is offline God's Lil Lamb
      Administrator
      Community Team
      53
      Married
      Gloria In Excelsis Deo
       
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Posts
      21,251
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      221,120
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (563,346 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      251,716
      Level
      100
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      3.35%
      Rep Power
      1045
      I tend to think about Job and how God wasn't the cause of what happened to Job but He did allow Satan to do things to him. God blessed Job later as he stayed faithful and didn't blame God.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus


      1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

    11. Likes Josiah, Andrew, RichWh1 liked this post
    12. #9
      psalms 91's Avatar
      psalms 91 is offline Silver Member
      Moderator
      Supporting Member
      71
      Mood:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Jun 2015
      Location
      Pa
      Posts
      14,334
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      857
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (30,332 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      66,606
      Level
      63
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      63.09%
      Rep Power
      682
      Yup He doesnt do ti but He can use it to teach us or deliver us or bless us. When we are in the storm we choose whether to pass through it trusting in God or to go through it with our fear doubt and unbelief
      Isaiah 40:31

    13. Likes Josiah, RichWh1 liked this post
    14. #10
      jsimms435 is offline Expert Member
      52
      Married
      Mood:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2015
      Posts
      4,087
      Country
      United States
      CH Cash
      10,534
      Post Thanks / Like
      CH Cash
      (0 Banked)
      vBActivity - Stats
      Points
      20,626
      Level
      40
      vBActivity - Bars
      Lv. Percent
      30.67%
      Rep Power
      566
      I suppose it is possible, but I would assume it is more likely that if I am in a uncomfortable situation it is my fault more than anything else.

    15. Likes Josiah liked this post

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •