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    Christian Theology - Thread: Why did Jesus cleanse the temple?

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      Why did Jesus cleanse the temple?

      The money changers were simply selling animalls, so that the people who wanted to come a far distance to Jerusalem didn't have to haul a big animal the whole way. They could just take a bag of money with them, and exchange it for an animal at the temple, and then sacrifice that. So, what's so wrong with them providing this service? Why did Jesus call them thieves? It's not stealing to sell animals. I don't get it.

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      There's more than one gospel reading that records this incident and Jesus gives the reason why it happened...he said that they were thieves.
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
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      If Jesus said they were thieves, that's good enough for me. I don't need to know why, and I lack the ego to tell Jesus why.
      We are justified by works - just not our own.

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      Rhetorical question? Scripture implies to me that money changers and taxes in general was something the Pharisees were somewhat against or didn't care for.. Calling a taxman a sinner for his occupation and what not, also asking if they should pay taxes.. Perhaps the market of selling animals to sacrifice is similar to indulgences and Jesus knowing he would be the final sacrifice ran them out, buying your sins away in the temple is probably why he called it "a den of thieves"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lämmchen View Post
      There's more than one gospel reading that records this incident and Jesus gives the reason why it happened...he said that they were thieves.
      (A: Maftir) 19 (22) Adonai said to Moshe, “Here is what you are to say to the people of Isra’el: ‘You yourselves have seen that I spoke with you from heaven. 20 (23) You are not to make with me gods of silver, nor are you to make gods of gold for yourselves. (S: Maftir) 21 (24) For me you need make only an altar of earth; on it you will sacrifice your burnt offerings, peace offerings, sheep, goats and cattle. In every place where I cause my name to be mentioned, I will come to you and bless you. 22 (25) If you do make me an altar of stone, you are not to build it of cut stones; for if you use a tool on it, you profane it. 23 (26)

      Likewise, you are not to use steps to go up to my altar; so that you won’t be indecently uncovered.’”


      Haftarah Yitro: Yesha‘yahu (Isaiah) 6:1–7:6; 9:5(6)– 6(7) (A); 6:1–13 (S)

      B’rit Hadashah suggested readings for Parashah Yitro: Mattityahu (Matthew) 5:21–30; 15:1–11; 19:16–30; Mark 7:5–15; 10:17–31; Luke 18:18–30; Acts 6:1–7; Romans 2:17–29; 7:7–12; 13:8–10; Ephesians 6:1–3; 1 Timothy 3:1–14; 2 Timothy 2:2; Titus 1:5–9; Messianic Jews (Hebrews) 12:18–29; Ya‘akov (James) 2:8–13; 1 Kefa (1 Peter) 2:9–10



      According to His Word in Torah,
      A sheer surface like water, instead of steps was to be given to those freely offering a sacrifice upon an altar of Fire.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NathanH83 View Post
      The money changers were simply selling animalls, so that the people who wanted to come a far distance to Jerusalem didn't have to haul a big animal the whole way. They could just take a bag of money with them, and exchange it for an animal at the temple, and then sacrifice that. So, what's so wrong with them providing this service? Why did Jesus call them thieves? It's not stealing to sell animals. I don't get it.
      Objection: Stating facts not in evidence.

      What ARE the facts ...
      [Mat 21:12-17 NASB] 12 And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves. 13 And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN." 14 And [the] blind and [the] lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them. 15 But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that He had done, and the children who were shouting in the temple, "Hosanna to the Son of David," they became indignant 16 and said to Him, "Do You hear what these [children] are saying?" And Jesus said to them, "Yes; have you never read, 'OUT OF THE MOUTH OF INFANTS AND NURSING BABIES YOU HAVE PREPARED PRAISE FOR YOURSELF'?" 17 And He left them and went out of the city to Bethany, and spent the night there.

      [Mar 11:15-18 NASB] 15 Then they came to Jerusalem. And He entered the temple and began to drive out those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves; 16 and He would not permit anyone to carry merchandise through the temple. 17 And He [began] to teach and say to them, "Is it not written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL THE NATIONS'? But you have made it a ROBBERS' DEN." 18 The chief priests and the scribes heard [this,] and [began] seeking how to destroy Him; for they were afraid of Him, for the whole crowd was astonished at His teaching.

      [Jhn 2:13-22 NASB] 13 The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And He found in the temple those who were selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers seated [at their tables.] 15 And He made a scourge of cords, and drove [them] all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables; 16 and to those who were selling the doves He said, "Take these things away; stop making My Father's house a place of business." 17 His disciples remembered that it was written, "ZEAL FOR YOUR HOUSE WILL CONSUME ME." 18 The Jews then said to Him, "What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?" 19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews then said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body. 22 So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken.

      Moneychangers: exchange one national currency for another (by definition).

      Merchants: sell animals for currency (by definition).

      Some terms you might want to research on your own:
      GENTILES
      SECOND TEMPLE
      OUTER COURT

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
      Rhetorical question? Scripture implies to me that money changers and taxes in general was something the Pharisees were somewhat against or didn't care for.. Calling a taxman a sinner for his occupation and what not, also asking if they should pay taxes.. Perhaps the market of selling animals to sacrifice is similar to indulgences and Jesus knowing he would be the final sacrifice ran them out, buying your sins away in the temple is probably why he called it "a den of thieves"
      Maybe maybe maybe. What's wrong with taking the testimony of the Bible as it is given?


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      So, basically none of you know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NathanH83 View Post
      So, basically none of you know.
      I bet you don't either
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus


      1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

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      I do not believe that Jesus was intent on starting a new religion. To me, he wanted a complete reform of second temple Judaism. Going after the notorious profiteers publicly was his approach. Unfortunately it triggered a deadly response from the High Priesthood and the Roman authorities.

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