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    Christian Theology - Thread: Usury?

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      Quote Originally Posted by NathanH83 View Post
      If you don't know then you don't know the gospel. Forgiveness comes when you repent. If you don't repent, you won't be forgiven.
      It would be great if usery were abolished but government remains secular and unfortunately the economy remains a secular structure along with it. Mathew was a taxman and was considered a sinner by the Pharisees which should tell us a lot

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      Quote Originally Posted by NathanH83 View Post
      If you don't know then you don't know the gospel. Forgiveness comes when you repent. If you don't repent, you won't be forgiven.
      So you think that a BELIEVER is going to hell if he/she doesn't believe the same as you in thinking it's a sin?
      "Christianity does not require more work but more trust." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "Bearing fruit does not make you a branch. A branch is a branch because it grows from the vine." Pr. Jonathan Fisk
      "A Christian's life is not defined by what the Christian does. It is defined by Christ and what He has done for us." Pr. Rolf David Preus

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      Quote Originally Posted by NathanH83 View Post
      Do you think I care about the bike analogy?
      The point is that Usury is a sin, and many professing Christians who work at banks giving out loans are guilty of sin. They're going to Hell.
      You really don't get to use a fatally flawed analogy and then claim you don't care about the analogy.

      If you want to claim that people who aren't in full alignment with a law given to the ancient Israelites are going to hell then what about people who don't fully align with other laws given at the same time? Like people who trim the edges of their beards, wear clothing of mixed fibers, harvest all the way to the edges of their fields and so on? Are they all going to hell?
      "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law" - Aleister Crowley

      "If you love me, obey my commandments" - Jesus Christ

      The Bible comes as a complete package. If we want to pluck verses out of context so make them mean what we want them to mean, if we want to ignore the passages that are inconvenient to our outlook, we should be intellectually honest enough to throw our Bibles in the trash and admit we are following Crowley and not Christ.

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      Are we talking big bank owners like the rothchilds or just their employees?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
      It would be great if usery were abolished but government remains secular and unfortunately the economy remains a secular structure along with it. Mathew was a taxman and was considered a sinner by the Pharisees which should tell us a lot
      Well said Andrew,

      You have touched on a subject that likely touched matit'yahu in heart..

      2 parables given by Yeshua come to mind. One is the ten talents likened to the ten days of awe before sukkot begins on a full moon.
      The other parable is about a faithful servant forgiving debts especially to those who lack in the spirit of knowledge.

      Blessings Always

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
      Are we talking big bank owners like the rothchilds or just their employees?
      All that use usury are corrupt.
      Criminal organizations have adopted the same form of gathering wealth where moths eat.

      Their own blood is upon their heads for doing so.

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